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1 Mother
2 End NPOV Dispute
3 Neutrality dispute
4 Too Much was edited out

[edit] Mother

what was james wolfe mothers name?

Henrietta, daughter of Edward Thompson, and she was from Marsden, Yorkshire.

[edit] End NPOV Dispute

Since no-one has spoken up with any specific concerns about the NPOV of the article, I have removed the NPOV tag. I would suggest that the entire song "bold wolfe" is not required for the article. It should maybe have its own page, with the name of the composer, years, maybe a sheet of the music?Easter rising 16:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't even think that's necessary. The song/poem is non-notable and adds nothing to the article, apart from more anecdotal, uncited claims. Speaking of which, the trivia is also uncited, and should either be backed up with citation or removed, imho. Fishhead64 21:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

My bad. I'll remove it till I dig up that source... an ex-prof of mine wrote the book in question... I'll have to find it first! Easter rising 12:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality dispute

"Obvious inhumanity" etc. etc. Also no references for various claims. Clear anti-Wolfe sentiment. 195.194.199.50 12:20, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I'd say the whole Wolfe Legend paragraph needs rewriting. A clear POV case.130.237.175.198 10:16, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

The POV in this section is astounding, and uncited. There's been no defence of it since the NPOV tag was posted, so I'm editing out uncited sections. Fishhead64 18:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I have read quite a bit of material that would back up some of the claims from the section that was removed. Specifically:

It has also been suggested that Wolfe's chronic, and possibly terminal, illness led him to take the potentially disastrous risks he did. Always frail, Wolfe appears to have suffered diseases of the kidney and bladder, rheumatism, and possibly even scurvy. "If I say I am thinner," he reported to a friend, "you will imagine me a shadow or a skeleton in motion." Some historians have suggested that Wolfe knew he was dying in the summer of 1759 and was determined to die in battle, whether he won or not. This would explain his daring final assault on Quebec, and makes sense in light of his earlier comment that "In particular circumstances and times the loss of 1,000 men is rather an advantage to a nation than otherwise, seeing that gallant attempts raise its reputation and make it respectable."

This info certainly has supporting documents... I'll do my best to find them and place citations. Untill then I would suggest we remove the Neutrality dispute and place the section above with some *citation needed*s.Easter rising

[edit] Too Much was edited out

I read the POV part and although it was well, POV, it had information that was valuable. At the moment the image that is given on this page is positive, rather than neutral. Also the notes on his health were deleted. I don't know Wolfe enough to write about him, though. --A Sunshade Lust 10:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Need more info! Too much edited out!

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