Talk:Jennifer Hassum

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I assert that this article clearly does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion under the reason that the article, about a person, does not assert the importance of the subject. The article does assert the importance of the subject and it is furthermore clear that the subject is important, however if the subject's importance is in dispute then the proper protocol would be to set it as an Article of Deletion not for speedy deletion.

That being said I would like to take a moment, however, to talk about the article and why I feel it is important that it is not deleted but rather be allowed to remain.

As early as July 2005, Jen Hassum has been mentioned in a Wikipedia post and she is currently mentioned in no less than two articles, having more information about her adds to the content of these articles. With that in mind, that an article about her adds information to existing uncontested articles, there is little reason this article should be deleted.

Moreover, Jen is almost unquestionable important in the context and scale of her political activities. Jen is currently the chair of Canada's largest student union with forty-one thousand members, at one of Canada's top universities and she is the youth wing co-chair of one of Canada's major political parties which at last count had support of 22% of Canadians and in the last election received over two and a half million votes.

Lastly, I am not the only person who believes that Jen Hassum is noteworthy in terms of current affiars and politics in Canada. Jennifer Hassum is periodically mentioned in Toronto and Ontario media in relation to social issues and a google search of her name returns over 200 entries about her (and not just other people with the same name) and a search of “Jen Hassum” returns an additional 200 pages of which the majority are about her. Jen's relevance is not questioned by award winning newspapers or numerious other websites and I feel that Wikipedia would be well advised to agree with them.

I am not aware of why Dipics feels this article is not important and if he feels like adding an explanation of why he tagged this article of deletion, I would be happy to prepare a rebuttal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Carrottop 79 (talk • contribs) .

I'd agree with you that this is not a speedy candidate, but please calm down. People do sometimes make snap judgements. I would disagree on her presidency of the UT Student Union making her notable, because the last thing I'd want to see is another ten thousand articles created on other university student council presidents, however, the number of news reports on her would at least argue against speedy deletion. Fan-1967 01:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

This needs further discussion. Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Hassum. Thank you. Chick Bowen 02:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] From DIPics

The reason I originally listed this as a speedy was the fact that, honestly, she just doesn't seem notable enough for inclusion to me. I have no issue with listing her for afd instead. I cannot find any other student union officers listed on Wikipedia. College level offices, in my opinion, are not grounds for inclusion. Nor is "youth wing co-chair" of a large political party. I can't find any other examples of holders of this type of office listed either. Politically active college students just aren't uncommon nor notable enough in my eyes. The vast majority of Ghits that she gets are from college newspapers and many of them are as part of a list of people and she has definately not been the "primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works". In short, to me she seems a medium sized fish in a small pond. Give her a few years. Let her move out of the "active college student" area and into that real life thing. My bet is that she will either be unarguably notable or, just as likely, fade into the sunset. Let's find out which before we list her. Dipics 15:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I doubt she'll survive AfD, but there is enough assertion of notability to push her into that gray area that can't be speedied. In five years, she may be back here, or she may move off into other areas and disappear from public view. The article is premature right now. Fan-1967 16:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)