Talk:Joe Frazier
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[edit] No style?
theres nothing here talking about Joes style of boxing, he fought low with his head down much like the boxers did back in the 30's and 20's and before that. It was very different style and technique than what people were doing at the time.
[edit] picture?
This article could use an image of Frazier. Neilc 21:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
this article is bullshit. no structure, no talk of anything worthwhile, no boxing discussion. This man is one of boxings greatest ever, the only man to every legitamately beat Ali. Surely he deserves a decent article. I am the greatest boxer in the world shawn edward jefferson.
Edited discussion of boxing match with mayor - this is an encyclopedia, not a gossip rag.
[edit] two edits
Ali was not knocked down in the 11th round of the first fight by Frazier. Ali spent considerably more time in the hospital than Frazier did after this fight; the article made it sound like it was the other way around. In both the first and third fights the winner spent more time in the hospital than the loser.
Yeah, right. As Ali eventually admitted, "I slipped over that left hook." Ali was in shape, he had several easy bouts prior to this to get in shape, and he was in his prime. Frazier beat him fair and square. Ali's constant cheap insults and teasing of Frazier will follow him to his grave.
Your response has nothing to do with the edits, and is a POV statement regardless. But, for the record, Ali was rarely fatigued after only 6 rounds of fighting... he was in Ali-Frazier I, and it wasn't because of anything Frazier did.-2/7/06
[edit] Editing References?
I just wanted to change Fraizer to Frazier in a couple references, but when I try to edit that section, I see a virtually blank edit page. I guess it's "outsourced" to some other file, like CSS or something? tharsaile 17:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] First paragraph
I'm considering to edit the following:
- Frazier was known for a driving, relentless pursuit of opponents from all angles across the ring, using a chugging locomotion reminiscent of a train's advance up a hill. The contrast with Ali's dancing, non-linear style could not have been greater.
What does it mean? Is it referring to Fraziers forward bobbing and weaving fighting style compared to Ali's backward reflex-oriented style? Or his it referring to Fraziers relentless attack compared to Ali's pop and jab style? And I'm surprised there is no mention of his vicious left hook, which is considered one of the best in boxing history. Maya Levy 04:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Uncle Tom
Ali called Frazier an "Uncle Tom" in the buildup to the first fight, not the third fight.-2/17/07 And Frazier called ali a bitch ass tity sucken booty eaten' mother-fucker.
