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Contents 1 John Kerry won't run in 2008 2 World Economic Forum section 3 Repetitive information in Trivia section 4 Semiprotection 5 Kyoto accord and global warming 6 Exact date for Bryant Park rally

[edit] John Kerry won't run in 2008

Has anyone else heard that? 64.74.153.189 07:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes: it was featured in my newspaper. Extremely sexy 18:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

There is a movement to draft him as a presidential candidate in 2008. See: http://www.draftjohnkerry08.com Draftjohnkerry08 19:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World Economic Forum section

This section looks to me like it is in need of a lot of help. The last sentence is totally disconnected from the first: Kerry spoke about global warming and AIDS, and then Iran took his remarks as supporting them on nuclear power? Only one Iranian website's view is now mentioned. Is that what Kerry actually said? The linked article really quotes Kerry very little and devotes most of its body to Iranians, not Kerry. Surely it is not correct to only report on the Iranian spin on what Kerry said. Imagine how different George Bush's article would look if that were the standard. I'm hoping someone knowledgeable can clean this up. Mullibok 15:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Repetitive information in Trivia section

Since I am explaining the reason for my edits to the Trivia section, and they are still rather unceremoniously being reverted, I am going to explain myself here and hope that I can get feedback:

I deleted two trivia pieces in the John Kerry article, because they can already be found in the Personal Life section. My impression from other pages is that it is Wikipedia policy to cut down on Trivia sections as much as possible and to work it into the actual article. Since these pieces ARE in the actual article, they should be gone from trivia. I think it looks very bad and disjointed for an article to repeat itself this way, and I cannot imagine a print encyclopedia doing the same. Pick one place such information belongs, and remove repetition.

I also see no reason why the Trivia section would repeat that he is an ice hockey fan, but not repeat that he is an avid windsurfing fan, or an avid cyclist.

If someone really thinks this information needs to be repeated as trivia, I would appreciate their explanation here. Otherwise, I think it should go out. Mullibok 21:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I did explain this on my talk page. Extremely sexy 23:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Reading what is on your talk page, I am not clear what your position is. Do you agree that his height IS mentioned in the Personal Life section? If so, why does it need to be mentioned again in trivia? And what makes his like of ice hockey so notable it needs to be mentioned twice? Why repeat it in trivia specifically, and not repeat windsurfing, hunting, etc.? The way the article is now makes it look like one section doesn't know what the other section is saying, which I believe is poor form. I'm hoping someone else will be able to weigh in on this. Mullibok 14:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

As I wrote, I agree with you if his height has already been mentioned somewhere else, but I can't find it anywhere att all, hence. Extremely sexy 19:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Semiprotection

This page needs to be semiprotected. I did so earlier but it seems the protection has been removed (the page was consequently immediately vandalised again). I've reverted or amended at least 4 vandalisms to this page from anonymous IP addresses (and newly registered names) in the last 2 hours! matt.smart ^talk/contribs 15:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't appear that the page is actually semiprotected, someone just added the template saying it is.--Mbc362 16:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the template as its going to deter legitimate edits from anon users. If you want the page protected, you need to ask an admin do it.--Mbc362 17:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kyoto accord and global warming

"Whereas the Senate in 1997 during the Clinton administration voted down the treaty 95-0, including Senator Kerry" => this is part of his public record. It should be included as he is commenting on it. See: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=105&session=1&vote=00205 135.245.8.35 19:44, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exact date for Bryant Park rally

Does anyone know the date for that rally? Based on the coats they are wearing I feel like summer is too broad a term and probably also wrong. (unsigned comment)

Good catch. I did some research and have come up with a likely date of May 12, 1972; possibly April 1972. Neither is actually part of "summer." I edited the image page with links to sources and discussion of the date question on the talk page, but am out of time at the moment to edit the linking pages. I'll come back and do it later if no one else has. --MoxRox 13:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

okay I changed it just to say "in 1972." I really don't think the exact date is needed, and shouldn't be given if there is some question of the accuracy of the date. Since the two most credible sources I came up with both stated 1972, I believe that is correct. --MoxRox 13:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)