Talk:John Lee Hooker
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I love the music of Mr. Hooker and am cross-posting this question also to "boogie woogie" page in hope of getting the attention of someone who can answer my question. I love music, and the music of Mr. Hooker and the broad genre of boogie woogie are two of my favorites. But I don't have any skills to analyze the musical structure of what I'm hearing. So, with a little help from those of you who have those skills, I would love to know whether John Lee Hooker's "Boogie Chillun" can be called boogie woogie at all, stylistically, musically, structurally, or in whatever way? If yes, could you explain for me what the distinctively boogie woogie elements of "Boogie Chillun" are? I think Mr. Hooker's music is known for its use of one-chord tone. Does this aspect of his music have anything to do with the boogie woogie style per se? --Oichiro 03:05, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Hooker was the father of boogie. Does that tell you anything? :) Project2501a 22:13, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your comment, Project2501a. But I knew that he is called "the father of boogie," and that's exactly what made me wonder about this. The boogie woogie style was already popular in the 1920s. And I love both old boogie woogie and Hooker-style blues. But while they sound similar in one way or another, I think, they sound also different to my ears. For example, boogie woogie isn't played with one chord, is it? So, I would love to know what it is that are common and different characteristics between the traditional boogie woogie style which is usually played with piano and Mr. Hooker's so-called "boogie style" which is said to have been invented by the man himself in the 1940s. --Oichiro 01:16, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I knew Hooker personally. He did not stutter in his normal speech. He also lived the last years of his life near the Bay Area, not in San Francisco itself. John Lee Hooker was also illiterate. - R
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The reference "... giving an early opportunity to the young Bob Dylan." isn't clear. --sparkit 05:05, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I was going to note that as well. Overall this is a great article, though, thanks to whoever wrote it!
[edit] Tributes/Artists who reference, cover, attribute careers/influence to JLH?
I'm thinking that a section on things like George Thorogood's reference to packing up his JLH record collection' in 'One bourbon, one scotch, one beer' and other such asides might be worth noting here to indicate further JLH's influence in the popular music?ThuranX 04:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm more information about one of JLH's sons continuing in his footsteps with a modern electric blues band? I believe he is working under the name John Lee Hooker Jr. Thanks A.
[edit] Actual Date of birth
There was an interview in Q magazine (uk) in 1989 where Hooker said that he was actually born in 1920 and lied about his age to get into the army, in order to impress girls with the uniform. Does anybody know if this is true?
- His biography, Boogie Chillen, (written, horribly, by Charles Shaar Murray) says that Hooker himself isn't sure of the exact date, but it is likely 1917 (if I remember correctly). Possible dates were 17, 19, or 20. Sir Isaac Lime 20:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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boogie woogie is more about the rhythm than the chords used. The synocopated shuffle rhythm that defines boogie is also in most of John Lee Hooker's songs.
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Since you removed my request for a citation, I added my own and updated the information at the same time. I have many books on the blues, so I hope its O.K. for me to add my two cents worth. Thanks! Mattisse(talk) 01:25, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Matisse, of course it's great to add a citation, but as I mentioned in my edit (and subsequently on your talk page), there was already a citation there. Glad you combined both into one though (with the "palmer" nametag), rather than simply repeat it. Also, for a lot of the citations you requested earlier, a simple books.google.com search turned all of them up (saves flipping through the indices of various blues books). It took only slightly more time than adding the "citation needed" tag. Oh, and I changed "Hooker says he was influenced by..." to "Hooker was influenced by." If Hooker says he was influenced by someone, that means he was influenced by them, unless he was lying about it. Which is unlikely. Sir Isaac Lime 01:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Please, Sir Isaac, read this link: Citation Needed in John L. Hooker An administrator, User:TomTheHand explains in detail that the position you are taking on my talk page and here is incorrect. If you like, I can ask him to explain it to you again if it is not clear. Mattisse(talk) 03:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sir Isaac, thank you for you reply
Thank you Sir Isaac for your reply on my talk page. My point was that the information in the introduction was somewhat incorrect, so I changed it and gave a reference to try to deflect the criticism I suspected was heading my way from people who "own" the article. If you look in the edit history and the actual code, I think you will find that I did use named references. As I look through the article I saw more that was incorrect as well as important elements of the history of black recording ignored. As a member of the Wikipedia community, I want to improve an article about an important black artist, an article that seems unaware of the behind-the-scenes business issues which with black artists had to deal as well as other elements of the person, John Lee Hooker's, life. Thanks again! Mattisse(talk) 13:07, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
