Talk:John Tsombikos

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This article was nominated for deletion on July 14, 2005. The result of the discussion was keep.

Finished reading archive of the original VfD discussion. As the creator of the article, and as a result of reading the discussion, I recommend this article, plus others for Cool Disco Dan and Fab 5 Freddy be merged and/created to document the impact of such graffiti artists on urban American culture (and hip hop culture in the case of Fab 5 Freddy). 38.118.43.2

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I have reverted Borf to a redirect to this article and have removed the following text:

Borf is not caught.

Borf is many. Borf is none. Borf is waiting for you in your car. Borf is in your pockets. Borf is running through your veins. Borf is naive. Borf is good for your liver. Borf is controlling your thoughts. Borf is everywhere. Borf is the war on boredom. Borf annihilates. Borf hates school. Borf is a four letter word for joy. Borf is quickly losing patience. Borf yells in the library. Borf eats pieces of shit like you for breakfast. Borf is digging a hole to China. Borf is bad at graffiti. Borf is ephemeral. Borf is invincible. Borf. Borf ruins everything. Borf runs near the swimming pool. Borf keeps it real. Borf writes you love letters. Ol’ Dirty Bastard is Borf. Borf knows everything. Borf is in the water. Borf doesn’t sleep. Borf systematically attacks the infrastructure of the totality. Borf is a foulmouth. Borf eats your homework. Borf brings you home for dinner. Borf is the dirt under your fingernails. Borf is the song that never ends. Borf gets down. Borf gets up. Borf is your baby. Borf is neither. Borf is good for your heart, the more you eat the more you. Borf is. Borf knows. Borf destroys. Borf is immortal. Borf pulls fire alarms. Borf scuffs the gym floor. Borf is looking through your mom’s purse. Borf is M. Borf is the size of Alaska. Borf likes pizza. Borf is in general. Borf ain’t nothin’ to fuck with. Borf runs it. Borf has reflexes like a cat. Borf is immortal. Borf sticks gum under the desk. Borf is omnipotent. Borf is flawed. Borf is winning.

If you can think of an appropriate way to incorporate it into this article, please feel free. Thanks. Doctor Whom 18:06, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

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I took this out of the article:

"*The following article has a negative bias against BORF, but more importantly it is without much factual basis in a number of ways the most important of which is that BORF is not one person. I have tagged BORF myself and know others who have done so as well. As an autobiography this entry fails even more. This article failed to mention any of John's more "mainstream" accomplishments including his early graduation from high school and his collegiate study, among many other things. Because I know John personally, and not through the media, which also had gross innacuracies, I will honor his biographical page by saying that whatever is written below does not represent him, he would probably not like to be represented on this website at all.*"

-The article doesn't sound negative to me. It says he's a guy who did graffiti and was arrested, which is all true. As for graduating early from high school and going to college (both of which are hardly unique feats), this needs some other source besides yourself, like "according to the Washington Post..." or whatever. Anybody could claim to know him and say whatever they want about him. If it's in an article somewhere, feel free to put it in here. Make the article better, don't complain about it.

"As an autobiography this entry fails even more"

-this article isn't an autobiography, unless John Tsombikos started it himself.

"it is without much factual basis in a number of ways the most important of which is that BORF is not one person"

-the article says this - "Shortly after his arrest, a group of young people held a rally in Dupont Circle, claiming that they were all Borf and that Tsombikos was one of their group." You can't say something is a fact if you can't verify it. Whether you knew him or not, we can't just take your word for it. Somebody else could say they knew him and he smelled bad, or whatever, but you wouldn't put that in the article.

Awiseman 14:24, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

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[ L D Tibbins 1/1/06: hello, if you consider it relevant I wrote an article on the alleged Borf interview in the WP, mainly deprecating their article, available at http://feedhand.typepad.com/feedhand/2005/11/index.html sorry but I dont get the four 195.92.67.66 22:18, 1 January 2006 (UTC) mark thing, cheers LT]

Where did you see the thing about the cops and the I Saw You ad? That's very funny! Awiseman 15:43, 3 January 2006 (UTC)