Talk:Jon Corzine
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Isn't he the *junior* senator?
- Strange as it may seem, he isn't. Frank Lautenberg retired in 2000. When he did, he lost all seniority he had, so when he came back in 2002, he was junior to Senator Corzine, because technically Corzine became a Senator in 2000 while Lautenberg became one (this time around) in 2002.
I oppose the usage of "He also supports stronger federal gun control laws..." because the a person with the opposite POV would "support weaker federal gun control laws". Since the antinym of more restrictive is less restrictive, and both terms are fairly NPOV, I propose replacing stronger with more restrictive. --Hcheney 23:31, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Restrictive has a negative connotation. I don't feel it's stricly NPOV. But I'd certainly be open to something other than stronger. It was the best wording I could come up with at the time. How about "Corzine supports tighter controls on guns"? --Meelar 00:57, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
P.S. Let me add that it's good to see you back.
- Thanks, what can I say? I just can't stay away from wikipedia. I don't think more restrictive is negative, for example, I think most politicians would love to be labelled as "favoring a more restrictive policy on child pornography". Corzine is a proud proponent of gun control and represents a state that has some of the strongest/tightest/most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. I doubt Corzine would use such a neutral term as more restrictive in his campaign material, during the 2000 campaign Corzine attempted to portray himself as a warrior that would fight the NRA, and support registration of all guns. In order to be truly neutral, we should avoid such adjectives and merely list the proposals he supports, or has supported in the past, and let the readers decide for themselves. --Hcheney 16:07, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- What about the term "more/less comprehensive" as opposed to "more/less restrictive?" That to me would describe merely the scope of the legislation's powers rather than assigning a subtle endorsement or criticism. Just a suggestion. Sleeper99999 11:07, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
In the U.S., I think, gun ownership is viewed as a fundamental liberty--thus the "gun rights" movement. Child porn is not seen that way. I think Corzine's opponenets might use the "more restrictive" label. If you're not happy with "tighter", though, by all means, change it up. Yours, Meelar 22:41, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I doubt most New Jerseyans view gun ownership as a fundamental liberty, even Bob Franks, Corzine's Republican opponent in the 2000 election took substantially the same postitions on guns as Corzine in the campaign. However, more importantly than the wording on a single senator's article is the work that needs to be done is so far as NPOV and content for the body of American firearms topics prior to the major political storm that is brewing due to the sunsetting of the federal assault weapons ban. --Hcheney 02:48, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
==Wait until January 2006== Why not wait until Corzine actually takes office as Governor of New Jersey ,before making a Governor of NJ template for him? Richard Codey is still Acting Governor (2004- present). Mightberight/wrong 14:01, 9 November 2005.
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[edit] Info box and succession box
We've got a potential edit war about how to refelct his status as Governor elect in the info box and succession box. We're having a similar problem with Tim Kaine. Can we discuss here and reach consensus rather than changing back and forth? TMS63112 21:11, 9 November 2005 (UTC) (forgot to sign)
- I'm sure this issue has been worked out before, but it only seems logical to use succession when that person takes office. I believe that's the standard we used for Christine Gregoire and Dino Rossi during their incredibly close race in 2004. I think a succession footnote explaining what will be happening is totally reasonable. Velvetsmog 21:34, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
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- But isn't it presuming too much, that Codey will complete the term, and that Corzine will be alive to assume the Governorship? Look at what happend in Florida ,it was assumed Jeb Bush would succeed Lawton Chiles as governor. Chiles died (Dec.98) before Bush's inauguration (Jan.99) ,making Buddy MacKay the successoer to Chiles not Bush Mightberight/wrong 22:36, 9 November 2005.
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- I think we're in agreement here. Succession box should be for current state of the world, footnotes for any special notes, including the 99% common case for succession between elections. Velvetsmog 23:00, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Agreed. I wish good health to the retiring Governors & the Governors-Elect of New Jersey & Virginia. Mightberight/wrong 0:44, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Carla Katz
Someone keeps adding, in the section of Marriage and Divorce, a statement that Jon Corzine "got Carla Katz pregnant than forced her to have an abortion." This is, of course, a variant on a vicious, unproven rumor launched against Senator Corzine. If you have proof about this, show it. Since you don't, stop adding it.
- I completely agree... It's starting to get very annoying. Either prove your comments or stop adding/vandalizing... fdewaele
[edit] Title of Acting Governor
Donald DiFrancesco and Richard Codey are now officially titled Governor, rather than Acting Governor. [1] —chair lunch dinner™ (talk)
- True, thus Corzine will be the 54th Governor of New Jersey rather than the 52nd. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 11:12, Jan. 14, 2006
- Are you sure about the numbering? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aronk (talk • contribs) 13:56, Jan 14, 2006 (UTC).
- This press release confirms it. —chair lunch dinner™ (talk) 20:39, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- Are you sure about the numbering? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aronk (talk • contribs) 13:56, Jan 14, 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Acts section and cuts
I moved the paragraph around a bit [2] moving the cut to the Governor's School of New Jersey to the end of the paragraph and removing "one of his most controversial cuts..." that came before it. The reason is because I think most New Jersey residents would agree that his most "controversial" part of his budget has been to raise the sales tax and with regards to cuts there are several cuts to unique programs which have been considered "controversial" and I do not see what is different about this program.--Jersey Devil 10:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Corzinewatch" ?
Do we need that? I'm wary of PoV blogSPAM showing up here, especially with the recent budget buissiness... 68.39.174.238 01:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- I removed it.--Jersey Devil 22:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Religion, infobox
Isn't he a Methodist? Also, what template can we use to reflect his Senate service as well? Biruitorul 02:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Comrade"
I am inserting "Comrade" in front of Corzine's name since he is a true-believing socialist who's politics would fit nicely in with the old Soviet Union. Besides, doesn't "Comrade Corzine" have a nice ring to it ?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.197.130.151 (talk • contribs) 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC).
