Talk:Karla Faye Tucker

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is he the one that have a twin brother name david garrett and a brother name glenn thomas garrett

There's got to be a better pictures than that. Not only is it too big it's blurry. HybridFusion 04:04, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Click on the image to see the previous picture. Let me know which you like better. David Cruise 02:37, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't see any other picture. HybridFusion 03:44, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Hybrid Fusion,
There is no other picture; the previous picture was the same, but bigger, and may have looked blurred. There is a problem with KFT's pictures, as most of the extant ones are from various news agencies and are copyrighted. David Cruise 04:57, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Talk Magazine 2 International Reactions 3 Dawkins-related vandalism 4 Unmarked grave?

[edit] Talk Magazine

On October 18, 2005, MONGO censored the quote from the Talk Magazine asserting that

there is no way to substantiate the quote since Talk magazine cannot be linked and no reference from that source are available.

The above sentence is an absurd statement, asserting that if something is not on line, it does not exist. The reason the Talk magazine is not available on line can be found in the January 29, 2002 article in Los Angeles Times by Reed Johnson:

The news of Talk's demise was made public by officials with Miramax Films, a unit of Walt Disney Co., and Hearst Corp., which backed the magazine to the tune of about $50 million. The shutdown, which Miramax Co-Chairman Harvey Weinstein and Brown blamed largely on the national advertising slump since Sept. 11, came as the magazine was boosting its circulation to a hefty 670,000 and, some thought, finally beginning to find a voice and visual style distinct from those of Brown's previous editorial charges, Vanity Fair and The New Yorker

Mr. Mungo,
You are of violation of the Wikipedia policy to propose removal of information in the discussion section prior to the actual removal of this information.

Moreover, your action is a blatant instance of censorship of information which is not in congruence with your political beliefs. David Cruise 17:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

In no way is it vandalism...you must cite a reliable source. Furthermore, you need to refresh your understanding of WP:BOLD, and of Wikipedia:Vandalism before you make such an erroneous comment again. My statement is not absurd in any way. You must provide a relaible link to the either an online source, or the text of the interview that can be cross referenced...in other words, make it encyclopedic.--MONGO 19:00, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Mongo,
I like your articles about the National Parks and Wilderness areas very much. However, please,

correct grammar, add facts, make sure the language is precise, and so on, but please note: be bold in updating pages does not mean that you should make large deletions to articles on controversial subjects. (WP:BOLD).

Best Wishes,
David Cruise 21:22, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

David, the quote still isn't adequately referenced. What it needs is either an online link...I think if you query it in Google, you may find a third party link to the info, (but that's kind of like a I heard that she said kind of thing) or a citable publication that will at least paraphrase the jist of the conversation. Information integrity is paramount if we are going to have contenious quotes or information in articles if we don't adequately cite a reference. I'll leave in in for a day or two and allow you to try and locate a better citation that is currently available since Talk is defunct.--MONGO 05:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Mongo, Did you look at the reference section? You'll find there:

• Carlson, T. (1999). Devil May Care, Talk Magazine, September 1999, p. 106.

This is a direct quote to the primary source.

David Cruise 05:59, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I decided to search for it myself...online and came up with zilch. Talk magazine is defunct, so how is anyone going to go and get a reference from a defunct magazine, unless they find a copy on Ebay...even the Wikiquote section has nothing about the "conversation". Like I said, and I mean no insult...we need a citable source for this type of information. One that others can find online, in a bookstore or library. I'm not trying to be obtuse, and I don't refute that the conversation happened or that it was published by Talk, I just don't agree that we are being encyclopedic with such a contencious quote by not properly referencing it in a manner that makes cross examination for the reader readily available. I'll help you out...get ahold of JamesMLane because I'm sure he will be a good candidate to help you find a more available reference.--MONGO 08:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] International Reactions

I restored the deleted international reactions. They are factual quotes. Their deletion is an obvious attempt to skew narrative in the direction of censor's personal beliefs.

David Cruise 23:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dawkins-related vandalism

This page was vandalised by someone trying to point out the obvious fact that people can change Wiki.

See here: http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=553

..and in case they try to highlight the oh-so-fluid nature of internet truth, I've quoted them here:

TGD, p192 The source Dawkins cites for this quote, in his own best selling book, while serving as a luminary of science, is Wikipedia. That would be okay, I suppose, but he got the quote wrong. It actually reads, "Please," Bush whimpers, like a repentant preacher, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "Don't murder me." And I should know. I just changed it. If you like you can change it back. Or put a bible in Bush's hands. Whatever. Beware, however, your revision may end up in someone else's best seller.

amnesiac 14:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unmarked grave?

The Find-A-Grave bio says that her grave is unmarked, but then shows a picture of what looks like a grave marker. Is it common in the US to have unmarked graves with some common marker nearby having the names of the people buried there? That would seem to be one way of reconciling the statement with the picture. (and unlike the case of Talk magazine, someone can go check...) --Alvestrand 14:59, 2 January 2007 (UTC)