Talk:Kathleen Battle
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This article reads too "gossipy" for my taste. Anyone agree Antares33712 16:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. Tried to rectify it. Dalliance 18:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Reversion of edits to Kathleen Battle
[129.74.18.183 (Talk)] You are simply whitewashing this. You have taken my structure, and my positive comments, kept both, and removed the negative facts -- widely known -- to produce a write-up that is just a whitewash. Even my contribution of the New Year's Day concert, on which she sang for 9 minutes, has been left in with the 9-minute qualifier removed, leading to a distorted picture for Wikipedia readers. You have turned the 2-prong conductor point, a true and quite neutral fact in her ascendancy, as Battle herself would tell you, into a generic puffed-up laundry list of big names, none of whom was as vital as the two first mentioned. You have misspelled one of the names. You have used the wrong tense. Finally, you have removed another contributor's external link that documented Battle's firing at the Met. Are you her publicist?
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Response:
Mr. Powell:
Call it what you will. However, to quote Wikipedia discussion of guidelines: "Controversial material (negative, positive, or just highly questionable) that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous."
I 'edited' your point about the conductors, because it was a fact that she worked with many other important and esteemed conductors. She has, indeed stated, and if you want to quote her, you can, something to the effect that James Levine has been the cornerstone of her career acting as mentor, collaborator, and friend. However, your point was not quite neutral. Her ascendancy has a lot to do with a voice that many were attracted to and hard work -- which were recognized by the many stages, conductors, venues, recordings, and reviews of the same.
If I misspelled one of the names, I appreciate you catching it and correcting it.
Regarding the external link "about the firing," this was clearly not an unbiased examination of the firing. It is a fact that she was dismissed from the Met. But much of the information in that article was, as one person mentioned, gossipy, and went against the guidelines I quoted above.
Finally both you and I know this article is not of the calibre that would be found in any reputable biography. Often it arches towards gossip and negatively. period. A reputable biography should include a discography, people with whom she worked, voice teachers, the artists own words, highlights (which, in Ms. Battle's case are numerous), etc. For example...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Callas
Or look up Leontyne Price, Dawn Upshaw, etc.
[edit] Her firing
Why does this article not discuss her firing at the Met? It was kind of important. Dave Foster 08:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. Her firing by the Met in 1994 was an extremely important event -- sadly, it seems to have hurt her career significantly (note her artistic highlights mentioned are all pre-1994). So it doesn't make sense to completely ignore it. The key is to source this with a good article that covers the facts of the Met firing in an objective way. This probably isn't appropriate (too one-sided, in my opinion), but it does show how a mainstream magazine covered this when it happened. And if that's not catty enough, try this from Vanity Fair in 1994. Rickterp 06:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Voice
The article states she is lyric-coloratura, but perhaps she is more soubrette? Anyone else agree?
