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1 A better representation of what KDE4 will/may be
2 KDE on Windows and Mac OS X
3 Release Date
4 Dashboard Widgets
5 Huh?

[edit] A better representation of what KDE4 will/may be

That picture is kde3, the article already specifies that this is an article about future software, so how about the picture from this KDE article?

http://dot.kde.org/1169588301/

its more representative of the leap ahead KDE4 is intended to be, and even though its a preliminary mockup its good enough to be used by KDE as a representative, so why not here?

[edit] KDE on Windows and Mac OS X

Some people seem to believe that KDE 4 will be officially supported for Microsoft Windows (by KDE.org and not a separate project). Is there any truth to this?

I believe that KDE requires a POSIX environment, which would require that users of Microsoft Windows use a POSIX "emulator", such as Cygwin. This has been done for KDE in the past. The "supported KDE on Windows rumor," if it is a rumor, may have stemmed from the fact that Qt4 is finally available as Qt/Windows under a GPL license (it had previously been only available under a proprietary license). While this does mean that the widget toolkit used for KDE is now readily available on Windows (thus making the build process for KDE apps for Windows trivial), it doesn't necessarily mean that the desktop environment as a whole (konqueror/kicker/kdesktop/kcontrol/KDM) can be as easily ported. --Philipacamaniac 10:09, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Windows is fully POSIX-compliant. -- mms 00:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes it's true. :)

The plan is to support KDE on both Windows and Mac OS X (at least kdelibs, and preferably as many applications as possible). The things related to a "desktop environment" (ie, X11-specific) have been moved to a separate space in kdebase SVN and nearly everything builds on Mac OS X out-of-the-box now, and kdelibs mostly builds, last I heard. The windows folks have done a decent amount of work writing library support for the POSIXy things that kdelibs does, and a lot of the X11-specific code has been factored out in the moved to Qt4. --RangerRick 19:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Release Date

This article and the main KDE article have inconsistent KDE4 release dates. Likewise, from reading the official word: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-release-plan.html, the only factual information available is the technical preview in Oct 2006. That might result in a Fall 2006 release date (unlikely) or an early 2007 release date (more likely), but this is all pure speculation. I think some rewriting is due for both articles, to read something like: "KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment software. Although a release date has not been determined, a technical preview will be available in October 2006." This feels like an important change to this relatively short article, so I'm looking for opinions before making the change. --Philipacamaniac 09:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a good change. I imagine that the discrepancies on the release timeline might be due to inclusion of the sort of vague estimates thrown about in various semi-official places (such discussions on IRC, the dot, developer blogs, etc.) For now, using the information from the official release plan is probably the best option here. If more recent release information becomes available from a different (but reliable) source, we can always put that in later. The important thing is that we make sure it's citable and not speculation. — Jeff | (talk) | 01:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I just changed it to inlude information from an interview with one of the developers about the release date. I cited it as well, but probably should have asked if there were any objections here first. Are there any? — reldruH | 21:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Considering that it's now Nov. 1st (according to UTC time) I'm going to change the part about a technical preview being released in october. — reldruH | 00:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Aaron, there was a technical preview released in September (3.80.1) and another one was released today (3.80.2), if anything this article should be updated with this information 205.132.170.97 02:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dashboard Widgets

It's claimed in the article that KDE 4 will support Apple's Dashboard widgets. It is not my understanding that a widget written for Dashboard will run unaltered on KDE 4. Can someone confirm this? Maybe cite a reference? Rljacobson 03:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Since no one has confirmed this, I have changed the wording of the article. Rljacobson 21:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Hope this works as a reference: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1715