Talk:Kennedy Curse
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[edit] Popular Culture
Aren't there things in popular culture, like songs and movies that realate to this? I know there is the Kennedy Jig. Anything else? 4.240.54.40 06:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed Text
I just removed this text:
"The improbability of some repeated instances of misfortune within one family, especially two high-profile political assassinations, have prompted others to regard the "curse" as evidence either of a conspiracy against certain members of the family or of a psychological cloud (such as a pattern of risk-taking and controversy) on the family, or a negative theological influence (e.g., bad karma or a deal with the Devil)."
This is getting way to close to original research, even though it's trying hard to be phrased as NPOV. If you insist this be in the article, please find someone who is actually arguing the above statements and then put it in like this: "Journalst XYZ has argued that ______." Right now it reads like a conspiracy theorist is actually the wikipedian writing this material. --Quasipalm 21:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
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- This argument has been made from time to time, especially as the consequence of the fact that the fortune of Joseph Kennedy Sr was made by rum-running. However, I will concede that it is close to original research, although it is not. Robert McClenon 01:42, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
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- The introduction just added is much better. Thanks anon editor. --Quasipalm 13:49, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
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- "The Kennedy Curse refers to a series of unfortunate events that have happened to the Kennedy family. While these events could have happened to anyone, some have referred to the continual misfortune of the Kennedy family as a "curse." The improbability of so many repeated instances of misfortune within one family, especially two high-profile political assassinations, has raised questions as to whether the "curse" results from sheer bad luck or from coordinated violence against the Kennedy family."
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[edit] Curses vs. Stupid Behavior
???? Ginger Hair???? Why would this be a curse?
I can see why some of these, like cancer diagnoses or plane crashes can be categorized as curses, but I'm wondering why things like Joseph P. Kennedy II's jeep crash and Michael Skakel's murder conviction are listed as curses. Seems to me these are just run of the mill cases of wreckless behavior and people behaving with deliberate stupidity.24.60.184.196 01:34, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
And how does surviving the Chappaquiddick or being found "not guilty" of rape qualify one as "cursed"? - Nunh-huh 07:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
It is referring to bad things happening to the family, not neccesairly things that were uncontrollable. 4.240.54.40 06:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
I think it is stupid behavior, not a curse. But the stupid behavior may result from the way Kennedys have been brought up, which seems to be that they think of themselves as supermen who can take risks normal people don't - like an inexperienced JFK Jnr flying to Martha's Vineyard on a hazy evening. A 'born-to-rule' belief would be their real curse. Elitism 07:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I have also heard a theory that these events are due to greater risk-taking behaviour on the part of the Kennedys and, as such, this may be considered genetic. Unfortunately, I can't remember where I heard it ...
[edit] Why isn't Jackie's Death listed?
[edit] References
This needs references. I think I botched the formatting a few times.Tmcw 00:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kathleen Kennedy's father-in-law
What about mentioning the fact that Kathleen Kennedy's father-in-law, Edward Cavendish, 10th Duke of Devonshire died in the presence of John Bodkin Adams?
- He suffered a heart attack on 26 November 1950 while in Eastbourne, England. He was tended by his general practitioner, John Bodkin Adams, the suspected serial killer, and died in his presence. Despite the fact that the duke had not seen a doctor in the 14 days before his death, the coroner was not notified as he should have been. Adams signed the death certificate stating that the Duke died of natural causes. 13 days earlier, Mrs Edith Alice Morrell - another patient of Adams - had also died. Adams was tried in 1957 for her murder but acquitted in controversial circumstances. Home office pathologist Francis Camps linked Adams to 163 suspicious deaths in total. Malick78 11:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Christina Onassis
If Christina Onassis was not included as part of "The Kennedy curse" because she is not a Kennedy, then why was Anthony Onassis included?? --Sli723 02:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
