Talk:Kensal Green
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Is there more than one Kensal Green, that this needs this level of disambiguation? -- Zoe
- Heheh. I think it is VERY unlikely that it "needs this level of disambiguation"! I tried looking for non-W10 Kensal Greens, ones not in London, ones without cemeteries etc, without a huge amount of success. I think the name used is a reflection of someone trying sincerely to apply sensible heirarchical policies to place names whilst slightly forgetting the point of it. Personally I cannot be bothered to change it and then to go around changing the links (though I have done this once or twice in other cases where they just bugged me too much) but I would sympathize with anyone who did want to! It would imho have been better to just start off with Kensal Green (on the "most obvious name" rule) and then wait for the need for disambiguation to develop if it did when Kensal Green, North Dakota comes out of the woodwork! Nevilley 23:48 Jan 11, 2003 (UTC)
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- Two votes + mine ... good enough for me. Moved :-) -- Tarquin 23:49 Jan 11, 2003 (UTC)
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- Well done! Nevilley 23:52 Jan 11, 2003 (UTC)
The places near Purley and Coulsdon are Croydon, Redhill, Reigate, Epsom, Bromley, Sutton, Wallington and a number of Croydon surburbs. Of course, compared with the North of England or Scotland all places in and around London are near, but that's like saying places in the extreme south of Greater New York are close to the extreme north of the city. Does that sound right?
Sorry, that was me--Dieter Simon 01:44 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
A lot of the London stuff was I think done in some semi-automated way and whilst most of the results are not bad, there are some completely bonkers things it produced too. I think Purley and Coulsdon feature(d) in quite a few entries from *miles* away! No case needs to be made - it's not someone with faulty geographical knowledge or an odd concept of London, but just a mistake, so correct away! :) Nevilley 08:20 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
- Nevilley's guess about what happened is correct: I produced the automated "skeleton" entries for London, using a number of different geographic datasets with different geographic datum references, data formats, and naming conventions. Most of the errors were fixed by scripts which cross-referenced entries with normalized names and pseudo-WGS84-projected coordinates to spot the outliers. This was followed by hand checking of a small sample to test the quality of the checking algorithms. Unfortunately, a little bit of south London went into hyperspace in the process, and I didn't catch it in time.
- The automated creation of a "skeleton" mesh of articles also explains the highly disambiguated names: I didn't want the skeleton-posting script to create false aliases for other places with similar names. The Anome 08:28 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
Many thanks for your clarifications. On the whole the project is a good idea.--Dieter Simon 10:14 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Not the first cemetery?
I was under the impression that Kensal Green's was the first cemetery in the country; was there an earlier? If not, then the point about it's still being in use needs to be rewritten to avoid ambiguity.
Oh, and would anyone mind if I added a quotation from the Chesterton poem? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:58, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
