Talk:Kira Nerys
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[edit] Skipped a rank?
Was Kira promoted from Major to Colonel, skipping over the rank of Lieutenant Colonel? GoodDay 17:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- It could be that the Bajoran military rank structure does not have Lt. Col.s. But as far as I know, there is no canon source for Bajoran military ranks. ShutterBugTrekker 22:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- Great Point GoodDay 02:38, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Reverting page move
The character is known as Kira Nerys. There is no need to move it to Nerys Kira. And yes I know how Bajoran names work. I have reverted the move. 23skidoo 02:41, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) says "the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things". I don't recall a single episode where she's called "Nerys Kira" (always "Kira Nerys") or called "Nerys" (always "Kira"). So the page move doesn't jive with the naming convention. Besides, the only (currently) uses of Nerys Kira are on talk pages discussing this page move. Cburnett 03:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- I also clearly recall it being mentioned in the TNG episode "Ensign Ro" that to use the form "Laren Ro" was improper and incorrect. I believe this also happened with Kira in a DS9 episode but can't put my finger on which one. There are examples of Kira being referred to as Nerys, however, often by characters such as Bareil and Odo. 23skidoo 03:52, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Major Kira's given name is Nerys. This was cited several times such as when Vedict Berrial inquiring what her given name is after she introduces herself as "Major Kira".
- Apperantly bajoran names are treated very similar to japanese names, people are addressed by the last name and this could be an interesting addition to Bajoran. Just like Keiichi Morisato (Japanese would be Morisato Keiichi) or Kikuko Inoue (Japanese would be Inoue Kikuko), Nerys Kira should be how this article is titled. It may sound a bit wierd at first but it is actualy wierd the other way around. You dont normaly address people by the last name right?
- Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) suggests:
- For people, this quite often leads to an article name in the following format: <First name> <Last name> (examples: Billy Joel, Margaret Thatcher, etc)
- While it is just a guideline that can be ignored, I realy feel First Name, Last Name is the right format. Besides anyone visiting Kira Nerys will get to this page.
- --Cool CatTalk|@ 10:24, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- I also clearly recall it being mentioned in the TNG episode "Ensign Ro" that to use the form "Laren Ro" was improper and incorrect. I believe this also happened with Kira in a DS9 episode but can't put my finger on which one. There are examples of Kira being referred to as Nerys, however, often by characters such as Bareil and Odo. 23skidoo 03:52, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- (Essentially copied from talk page): While I appreciate efforts to render Kira's name correctly, CC, I believe the rendition "Kira Nerys" prevails: for example, the opening credits for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and her bio at the Star Trek website bill her that way. Reversing the order may appear slightly odd to a new visitor, and not just to Nana Visitor. :)
- Moreover, while informative, we're not talking about Japanese names here. The Bajoran name dichotomy is nothing that an effective article lead cannot rectify. Basically, the move flies in the face of the common naming convention and is disagreeable. And, amidst contention, a vote (perhaps proposed at WP:RM?) will only validate your position which – while I empathise with – I don't necessarily agree with in this instance and suspect most others will not either. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 11:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mirror Kira
Wikipedia needs an equivalent of Kira Nerys (mirror). —Disavian (talk/contribs) 16:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)