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In the shows section, what needs to be cleanup?

Please sign your comments with four tildes ("~"). But, I agree, what needs clean-up? - Bagel7 08:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Switch to "Alternative"

Are you sure KITS left "Top 40/CHR" for "Alternative" in 1986. I have an old Billboard magazine from spring 1987 that has them reporting as a Top 40 station. It also has their playlist which included mostly then mainstream Top 40 fair as Steve Winwood, Bon Jovi and Exposé. If someone could provide an actual date they became "Live 105" that would be great. Also, a history of the stations programming and format shifts would be useful.

It happened late in the year...either Nov or Dec 1986.
I think it was a gradual evolution. Live 105 was pure modern rock by mid-1987.--Fightingirish 16:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old DJs

Roland West links to the wrong Roland West...some dead guy from too far back.

Before Mark Hamilton, a guy named Mark Van Gelder filled the late morning/early afternoon spot. He was also the original announcer voice, and in fact stayed on to lend his voice to commercials, etc. even when Hamilton was on board.

Steve Masters pitches commercials now for video games. I heard a spot just last week. --Baddicusfinch 20:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I removed the wiki links to these names. Some, like Alex Bennett and Howard Stern, have their own entries and have at least some national prominence. The rest are not noteworthy enough outside local markets, and some are long forgotten there. I did laugh when I noticed Perry Stone's link was to an evangelist! I delinked it, since Perry doesn't do morning radio anymore (he's behind the scenes as a program director in Virginia). --Fightingirish 16:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Would it make sense to add Rob Francis? He was the number one substitute/weekend DJ (with the English accent) during the early years. He was formerly one of the old KQAK DJs. He popped up later as one of the original MARS FM 103.1 (Los Angeles market) DJs in 1992 (the station that changed formats thru the years to finally become today's influential Indy 103.1) --Baddicusfinch 18:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Bands

Cool if I take out the list of bands? It's too much clutter, and we could all add thousands of bands that would make the mess worse. Maybe a sample of five from each year would be better. A better list would be a list of bands that 105 actually broke out. ??? --Baddicusfinch 20:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Why not just move the list of bands to the entry for List of alternative rock artists? It's not like Live 105's playlist is that radically different than everyone elses'. I don't like the listing of bands on station articles - it just gets too cumbersome. I'd say a 'just the facts' approach is best.--Fightingirish 19:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


I looked up the official Wikipedia guidelines in reference to this article. Here's what I found:

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I'm sorry for the people who spent a lot of time on this band list (why, I have no idea), but the band list has got to go. Please no revert wars, since this is per Wikipedia rules. --Fightingirish 20:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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