User talk:Kiwi Kousin
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-- (☺drini♫|☎) 06:07, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Related to William Darwin Fox?
- Are you? He did have 17 children so I'm surprised if there's no-one around. Did Fox have any important relatives? Charles Darwin's descendents did quite well for themselves, after all. Maybe it's in the genes. Dunc|☺ 21:39, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Duncan, I didn't mean to "take-over" your good work, the intention was just to get it right. There is limited information available, and I have some that's been handed down. I'm "vaguely" related, 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Our common ancestors were Samuel Bristowe (1694-1761) and Mary Savage (1701-1791). There were some complicated family relationships around CD and WDF's period; a lot of 1st and 2nd cousin marriages. Studying the descendants reveals that many offspring from those marriages didn't or couldn't breed successfully. Some of the branches just died out.
WDF was born at Thurlston Grange, about halfway between Elvaston and Shardlow in Derbyshire, and spent the first few years of his life there before the family acquired Osmaston Hall (sometimes known as Osmaston Manor). His parents were very rich by the standards of the day, and though WDF was the only son of Samuel Fox and Ann Darwin, he had a half brother, Samuel Fox Jnr, from his fathers first marriage to Martha Strutt from another wealthy Derby family. Marriage settlements were the thing in those days and some of these daughters of wealthy parents came attached with a dowry - or as it ws called a "Marriage Settlement". Both Samuel Jnr and William D Fox were left 6,000 pounds each plus a half share in the residual of their father's estate, while each of his sisters received 1,100 pounds.
His two younger sisters lived for many years in Ladbroke Square in London and were waited on by up to six servants. One of those sisters, Frances Jane Fox in 1850 made a collection of materials and fabrics that had been worn or used by her ancestors and attached signed notes to each item describing who had worn it or where it had come from. A lot of those notes and fabrics still survive today, and I am the current "minder". The earlist is a dress worn by Mary Bristowe née Savage in a portrait painted in 1740 (the portrait is now in the Nottinghamshire Archives), while another is of a piece of furniture covering fabric which is described as covering the furniture in the sitting room at Thurlston Grange circa 1810.
I have a website covering the Bristowes and a part of the genealogy of the Fox side is shown in Sheet C in the Genealogy section via the Index.
The url is http://bristowefamilies.com/
Kiwi Kousin 07:12, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] 1862
It's million-to-one on that something from 1862 is public domain, since the author would almost certainly have died before 1934 (but not necessarily since it he was 20 when the letter was published, he would have to have died before his 92 birthday).
But the whole letter might be better on Wikisource rather than here because of the Wikipedia is nots. Dunc|☺ 09:39, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] be bold in updating pages
I couldn't find much about Francis Sacheverel Darwin, though the knighthood qualifies him for inclusion. — Dunc|☺ 22:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
