Talk:Konkani
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I changed "...given India's official language status" to "...given official language status". The former version, in addition to having a redundancy, tends to imply status as India's sole official language.
On a different note, isn't fishing also a major occupation in the Konkani community? rajneesh 09:41, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Ancient major occupations were fishing, farming and hunting. Then came trade (Goa was a natural port) with the Gulf states. You can put up a separate part for occupations in the Konkan region. I would also suggest you to look at Goa(state). --Desai 05:51, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)
The aricle gives the impression that Saraswath Brahmins are called so 'cos they eat fish !Though fish is consumed commonly these among Konkanis I guess it was never a part of the original Saraswath agenda ! Fishing is not occupation among konkanis atleast in the Mangalore,Udupi region.But I guess it is prevalent in North Canara /Goa Srikanth
The GSB in Kerala don't eat fish either. BTW, who owns this root page?
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[edit] First printed book in Konkani
The article says: "The first known book in Konkani was written in 1651 by Friar Thomas Steven, titled Doctrina Christi (the Doctrines of Christ)."
Madhavi Sardesai, in her article "Konkani Language", in last year's "Goa" issue of _Seminar_ (October?) says
"From the literary contributions of Fr. Thomas Stephens (1549-1619), called 'the Father of Christian Literature in India' (SarDessai 2000: 34) and who is also the author of the first printed book in Konkani - Doutrina Crista (1622)...."
1651 or 1622? Grateful if the date could be confirmed (I need the information for an article I am writing on language politics in Konkani for the Esperanto magazine Monato.) Giridhar 7 July 2005 07:50 (UTC)
[edit] Number of speakers of Konkani
The article wisely says: "The Konkani language is spoken widely in the Konkan region" without trying to give even ballpark figures!
See the large discrepancy between the census figure (1.7 million, 1991) and the ethnologue.com figure (7.6 million, 1999/2000). Meanwhile, a recent _Outlook_ article says: "A rough estimate puts Konkani speakers at 37 lakh in Karnataka, spread across three coastal districts." -- Certainly more than the 7 lakhs of the 1991 census! See: http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050627&fname=Konkani+%28F%29&sid=1&pn=1
For Kannada, for example, the discrepancy is much smaller -- the 1991 census says 32.8 million, and ethnologue.com's 1997 figure is 35.3 million. See: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=IN
Any better approximation, anyone? Giridhar 7 July 2005 07:50 (UTC)
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the writer of this article seems to have little knowledge of the region or history of the language. there are traditional folklores about how saraswats(Konkani brahmins) came to goa. but new archeological evidence also seem to support this facts that are handed down by word of mouth in traditional saraswat families. to srikanth: NO THE SARASWATS IN GOA ARE NOT FISHERMEN and yes they still do eat fish. this has nothing to do with being brahmin as three of the five pancha gauda brahmins classes of north; one among which is the saraswats; do the same. I can very well attest that maithili brahmins also do eat meat. so please make sure that the facts discussed here are indeed true before believing and arguing about the same. one can find much better facts about konakni at http://www.gsbkerala.com/gsbhistory.htm. --shripad
[edit] Konkani is not an offspring of Marathi
The article states that Konkani is another branch of Marathi. But, history has established that even when Konkani language had reached maturity, the Marathi language was not even born. There is an inscription written in Konkani dated 1187 A.D. whereas even the earliest Marathi manuscripts are of 16th century.
http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/konkani/konkani.htm
-Ravi
[edit] Non-vegetarian forbidden for Brahmins?
Removed the following portion: ...a food that is generally forbidden for this caste (brahmins are generally vegetarian)...
This is not entirely true. Non-vegetarian food is not forbidden, but (strongly) discouraged equally across all castes in Hinduism because it involves harming another living being. Only the meat from cattle and pigs is (strictly) forbidden. Also some Brahmin sects eat non-vegetarian food. Rohitbd 12:28, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Konkani Wikipedia
Dear Konknni friends,
Konkani Wikipedia has been started and been in test stage since August 2006.
Kindly contribute towards the Konkani wikipedia. We intend to make it a multiscript
Wikipeida. At least tri-script with Roman ,Devanangiri and Kannada scripts since these are the most popular ones.
We would like to get more articles/templates in place. We also need volunteers to do the thankless and boring job of transliterating it to different scripts .
As of now only two members are making active contributions. The more the merrier. Your contribution is vital to its success.
The url is given below:
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Konkani_Wikipedia
Dev boro dees deum! -Deepak D'Souza 05:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
