Talk:Kujula Kadphises

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[edit] Greek script legends

Corrections are needed to the "greek legends" in the righthand box with the coin photos.

The greek text is a mixture of Latin and Greek characters -- it should be made all standard Greek capital letters.

Especially note:

The Latin "V" should be Greek capital upsilon (looks like "Y")

In "KAΔAΦEC" the Latin "C" should be Greek capital sigma (standard sigma, not lunate sigma as the actual character on the coin seems to have a middle projection)

Several of the words are also suspicious -- may be a local dialect and/or use local letterforms, or may be typos in Wikipedia text.

The original author should check the text of the numismatic source.

Thanks for the heads-up. I checked the legends as described in Whitehead "Coins of the Indo-Greeks".

For the first coins the exact legend is: BACIΛEΩΣ ΣTHPOΣΣΥ EPMAIOΥ. As far as I know the C starts to replace the Σ around that time in Hellenistic Greek script.

For the second coin, the exact legend is KOZOΛA KAΔAΦEC XOPANOΥ ZAOOΥ. Same remarks. The only inexact character is the "P" in XOPANOΥ, which should be written like P with the curve (semi-circle) located in the middle of the vertical bar (instead of his top extremity):Þ. This is the "Sh" sound, as in "Kushan", developed specially for the Kushan language.

Indeed the Greek on these coins is barbarized. For example ΣTHPOΣΣΥ is thought to be a deformation of ΣΩTHPOΣ (Sotiros), the traditional title of Hermaeus on his coins. And, yes, BACIΛEΩΣ should be written BAΣIΛEΩΣ. PHG 10:57, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

You didn't address one of the concerns of the original comment - the Greek text you've written is mostly normal Latin letters, with Greek only used whenever there is no Latin letter with the same shape. Even though some of them look the same, Greek letters are encoded differently than Latin letters in digital text (you can click on the letters in the legend below the edit box if you can't easily type Greek). There's also no need to substitute C and Þ when the correct characters Ϲ and Ϸ exist (although they are somewhat less common in fonts). I've fixed everything in the article to use the correct characters. DopefishJustin 06:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Years

The years were listed in standard birth, death format. But the year thirty appears to be start of reign, not birth, according to both the succession boxes and the statement in son's article, ""Qiujiu Que (Ch: 丘就卻 "Ch’iu-chiu-ch’üeh", Kujula Kadphises) was more than eighty years old when he died. His son, Yan Gaozhen (Ch:閻高珍)". Gene Nygaard 06:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anxi = Parthia or Indo-Parthia?

I have reversed the identification of Anxi back Indo-Parthia because there is no evidence of Kujula invading "Parthia Proper" but plenty showing him conquering much if not all of "Indo-Parthia." John Hill 05:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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