Talk:L'Arrivée d'un Train en Gare de la Ciotat
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[edit] All Wrong!?
Urban legends spreading wildly?! This film was NOT screened on december 28th 1895. It is NOT listed among the ten films on the programme, as it is correctly indicated on the Lumière page, and shown at the Lumière Institute's homepage. In the two reference books I'm using (Bernard Chardère: Les Lumière; Rittaud-Hutinet: Le Cinéma des origines) there is no date of the first screening of this film. In Rittaud-Hutinet is an illustration of the film, with the note: "Arrivée d'un train à La Ciotat - 653 - (Louis Lumière) (1896-1897)". While the press reports about the first screening in december mention only the films on the list, L'Arrivée en Gare is quoted by two eye witnesses who attended screenings in January 1896, in Paris and Lyon (Chardère, p.102 and 105). Both of them were children at that time and interviewed many years later, so it's not such a precise information - but January 1896 seems the best guess. 1904.CC 01:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
And BTW:
It was first screened on December 28, 1895 in Paris, France, and was shown to a paying audience January 6, 1896.
As stated on the Lumière page, the screening on December 28 1895 wasn't a free screening - admission was charged (1 franc). At the day of the premiere, several other screenings were held. (Src: Rittaud-Hutinet, Jacques. (1985). Le cinéma des origines, p.32). It isn't very clear what the 6th January stands for (couln't find this date in my references).
[edit] Licensing
Previously a link to the video on youtube was removed citing "no license stated". I've re-instated it. The film was created in 1895. It's well and truly in the public domain now, no matter where it is being displayed. -- Ch'marr 21:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
reply: I'm afraid you're wrong, it's not in the public domain yet. Louis Lumière died in 1948. According to current copyright laws, his work will enter the public domain only 70 years after his death, which will be in... 2018! On the other hand given it's historical importance, it can be considered 'fair use' IMO. But archive.org would be a more suitable place to upload it than youtube... 1904.CC 00:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] If I May
help with something then let me correct this article´s heading. It correctly reads L´arrivée d´un train à la gare de la Ciotat. 80.219.135.11 10:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC) --Filmtechniker
Indeed the articles heading isn't capitalised correctly. According to most sources the french title is: L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat. La Ciotat takes a capitalised L because it's part of the town's name. Common names are usually not capitalised in french. In film titles, sometimes they are, and based on the reprints of the "programmes" of early screenings, capitalisation isn't always consistent. But the titles most often used are: L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat and Arrivée d'un train à La Ciotat.
So the title of the page should be changed either to:
L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat
or
L'Arrivée d'un Train en Gare de La Ciotat
bzzp 21:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
