Talk:La Ferté-sous-Jouarre memorial

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An entry from La Ferté-sous-Jouarre memorial appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 17 March 2007.

[edit] Initial creation

Just a brief note to mark the article's initial creation. Carcharoth 22:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More information needed

More information is still needed, such as:

• Finding out who designed and carved the memorial
• Finding out when it was unveiled
• Finding famous names on the memorial (if any)
• Incorporating more about the battles fought and regiments involved
• Explain numbers discrepancy
• Mention this cemetery

Currently, the "See also" list links to the main battles. Not sure whether to use the material there to write a narrative here, or whether to just leave the links as they are. I also want to mention this memorial in other articles, so will try and do that now. I'm also going to submit a DYK for the Fizeau connection. Carcharoth 22:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Tip from Carom: look up newspaper articles from 1928 (both French and English). Carcharoth 00:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Look at this website and find the "Rose Coombs' "Before Endeavours Fade" near the Marne (see the Reims to Compeigne section)" book. Carcharoth 13:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Another snippet of infomation from here (Google translation follows): "On November 4, 1928, inauguration of the “Memorial of the English” in the presence of the Foch Marshal, the Weygand General, the Marshal Sir George Milne, the Pulteney Lieutenant-general, of many superiors English, Australian and Canadian, of the Mayor of Ferté, Mr. Albert Gilquin, assisted his assistants, MISTERS Babin and Kinzinger, surrounded by its town council and mayors of the canton. A homage was paid to the soldiers, English heroes fallen on our French ground, with the marshals French, Joffre, and with the Maunoury General. The monument was then blessed by the English reverend-father, J.G.W. Luckey, then there were deposits of crowns in the name of the King and the Queen of England, French government and city of Ferté-under-Jouarre."

Some more, from a local newspaper in 2004, Google cache: "Nous vous l'indiquions dans le numéro 29 du Fertois du mois de mai, le mois de juillet sera un moment fort de la commémoration du 90e anniversaire de la bataille de la Marne. Le programme encarté dans ce numéro vous présente l'ensemble des événements prévus à la Ferté pendant toute la période de commémoration. Les expositions des travaux des élèves des écoles ont eu lieu courant juin. La nouvelle exposition qui va durer du 3 juillet au 26 septembre comporte 14 oeuvres de 14 artistes qui ont travaillé sur le thème "Batailles", spécialement créées à l'occasion de cette commémoration. A la fin du mois la journée du mardi 27 juillet sera dédiée à la mémoire des 3888 soldats britanniques morts sur le territoire de La Ferté-sous-Jouarre. Des parcours historiques vous sont proposés pour mieux appréhender cette période, des cérémonies officielles auront lieu au Mémorial britannique en présence de son excellence Sir John Holmes, Ambassadeur de Grande-Bretagne et de M. Jacques Barthélémy, préfet de Seine-et-Marne. Le rond-point face au mémorial prendra alors officiellement le nom de Rond-point lieutenant James Clongwoog-Thomson, premier soldat britannique mort sur le territoire de La Ferté. Le soir vous êtes invités à 20h au Théâtre municipal pour le spectacle "Paroles de poilus" joué par la Compagnie des Pygmalions." - seems to be a 90th anniversary commemoration and rededication. Carcharoth 13:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC)