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[edit] Merge
I am proposing that the articles on North Lambeth and South Lambeth should be merged with this one due to the high degree of duplication, and the need for a single discussion on the various definitions of their boundaries.
Lang rabbie 8 December 2005
[edit] Merging North/South Lambeth
These are very much two different communities but with no real defined boundaries; for me South Lambeth is the area between Vauxhall and Stockwell and North Lambeth between Waterloo and Elephant. Whilst I see the point for merging, if merged into a single 'Lambeth', the South Lambeth tag would be somewhat geographically incorrect as both north and south lambeth are in the north of the borough. I have lived in the borough for 20 odd years and no one really refers to 'lambeth' as anything other than the borough rather than any particular place; where as south lambeth is pretty distinct, and north lambeth, while less so has the geographically helpful tube station. Hope I havent put cat amongst pigeons in first discussion :) Rob Streatham 02:19, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
This merger seems to have been decided in favor of keeping the two pages seperate, so I am going to go ahead and remove the merge tags. -Warhorus 20:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] South Lambeth
I agree most people who live in North or South Lambeth would not refer to the areas as such but to Kennington/Vauxhall/Oval/Waterloo whatever. But I do think South Lambeth is a distinct area centred around South Lambeth Road. As a resident of the area I get lots of post especially from banks and other financial institutions addressed to me at South Lambeth so I do think it is distinct. I think we should therefore keep South and North Lambeth separate rather than merging them into Lambeth
[edit] Do not merge
South Lambeth should not be merged into Lambeth. South Lambeth is a defined community neighbourhood, with its own personality. It is distinct Stockwell in that it sits further north, it is not Vauxhall as it is definitely not part of the Vauxhall intersection which defines that area, and it is not Oval as that is also a specific and well-defined area. You could say that South Lambeth is an area centred on the community of shops on the South Lambeth Road (predominantly Portuguese), the South Lambeth library and the Mawbey Brough Housing estate. As such it is well defined geographically and in terms of its residents. To merge it into Lambeth which is just an administrative local authority borough of South London and so big that it does not have a community personality would mean that it would lose its specific identity.
[edit] A modest proposal
I think there is a consensus that South Lambeth stays, although it requires a rewrite.
If North Lambeth is to stay, should it become
(i) a disambiguation page only? This would direct people to separate articles that currently duplicate informaton: - Lambeth - history of the settlement by the riverside and the wider parish; - South Bank; - Waterloo; - London Borough of Lambeth - to be updated to include links to each of the areas covered by each of the "Town Centres"/"Area Committtes", including their definition of North Lambeth ; - Lambeth North tube station;
or
(ii) should the article be renamed Waterloo, London given that this is the most commonly used term for this area of London and given a rewrite?
[edit] North Lambeth
I think North Lambeth should become a Disambiguation page listing Waterloo, Vauxhall, Kennington etc etc and also the North Lambeth Town Centre which is how the borough of Lambeth defines the area.
I think also that there should be a separate Lambeth page and a Lambeth Borough page
