Talk:Larrys Creek

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Article Milestones
Date	Process	Result
April 12, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
July 14, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
August 29, 2006	Featured article candidate	Promoted
Current Status: Featured article

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Ruhrfisch (talk • contribs)

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Any and all feedback appreciated. Ruhrfisch 04:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

It would be nice if this article could decide whether or not it uses miles or kilometers. It's about a Pennsylvanian stream, so it should be miles, right? Decent article overall, however, at least in my consideration. Basically, this article has as much information as could reasonably be expected of it. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 22:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the promotion to WP:GA and for the feedback. My basic thought was that to be NPOV, it should use both kilometers and miles (since there are about 300 million Americans who use miles, but 5.7 billion of everyone else in the world who use kilometers). If there is a style guide or policy that miles should come first in American articles, I will be glad to make the necessary changes (and apologize as I didn't know). Ruhrfisch 01:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Generally, you want to consider the likely audience. There are only about a billion English speakers in the world with computer access, and a good third are in the USA. Not only that, but the likely reader of this article is probably American, as well. Of course, as the first main contributor, it's your prerogative to use whichever you want--however, if you want to leave it in KM, you might want to change the few scattered references to miles (besides the ones in parenthenses next to kilometers). I noticed one or two. Anyway, happy editing! Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 05:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I will switch it to miles first, kilometers second when I get the chance and leave the few approximate distances as miles only. I am working on a series of creek articles and this is the model / most developed of them, so all advice on making it as good as possible is appreciated (and will be used in other articles too). Ruhrfisch 11:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

This is pretty clearly covered in the Manual of Style. Particularly:

Conversions should be included.
When in doubt, source values (almost certainly miles for this article) should be first and converted values second. Also, as a topic on a U.S. subject, miles are appropriate.

So, basically, yeah, you're doing the right thing. Stellmach 16:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Great

I just want to say, this is one of the best stream/river articles I've seen. Excellent! Pfly 09:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes after FA

Since reaching featured status, I have added the National Register of Historic Places reference, as well as that the Flood of 1889 was from the same storm system that caused the Johnstown Flood (both mentioned in the FAC as possible additions). I also clarified the Seeley / Seely Run spelling (following the USGS name of Seeley Run) and added a new sentence (with reference) on the lack of Watershed Association for Larrys Creek. Two other refs have been updated and all PA State Routes are now just PA Routes. I have yet to write a stub on the covered bridge and wikilink that, but otherwise I think everything I now know about the creek that belongs in the article is there. Ruhrfisch 12:01, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Expanded the lead to three paragraphs and tried to make it more compelling / interesting (it was sort of dry before). Added one sentence to lumber section (essentially taken from the 1900's newspaper article). I have found a better map with more of the tributaries labeled and will make the tributaries into a separate list, Tributaries of Larrys Creek. Ruhrfisch 20:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Added information on past pollution to article (with two new references) and tweaked lead to reflect this. Ruhrfisch 03:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Added three sentences - two to Geography on the channel and drainage patterns and one to water quality on mean annual precipitation (all from PA Gazetteer of Streams). Ruhrfisch 03:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- Added topo / relief map of the watershed and dissected Allegheny Plateau, moved other images around. Ruhrfisch 03:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- Put in Template:geolinks-US-river, removed latitude and longitude in article, removed extra "located"s Ruhrfisch 22:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- Removed 88 duplicate and non-essential wikilinks, other minor edits per White Deer Hole Creek FAC Ruhrfisch 02:39, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Added discharge data, discharge and gauge section with three more references Ruhrfisch 16:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)