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Contents 1 This page needs a photo 2 Missing resorts 3 Westward Ho 4 Hotel and Motel 5 Casino Royale 6 Duplicate Info? 7 Standardizing hotel/casino/resort naming convention 8 July 8, 2005 data in History 9 Downtown Las Vegas redirects to Las Vegas Strip 10 Another Missing Hotel 11 Added back in the virtual tour of Las Vegas strip 12 Imperial Palace / Harrahs Placement in the "map" 13 Major Hotel Locations - What's the Proper Content? 14 The Boulevard? 15 Bourbon Street Demolished 16 Orleans shuttles

[edit] This page needs a photo

This page needs a photo. Anyone going on vacation? Meelar 07:01, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

There's a useful pic at Las Vegas, Nevada. I've been planning to take some myself, just waiting for good lighting, ha ha. Stan 15:57, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Missing resorts

I note the Imperial Palace is missing, but I'm not sure where it should go on the list. —Morven 23:43, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)

The guideline should be to sort in ascending order of the street number. Feel free to add missing info.

-- Felix Wan 02:09, 2005 Jan 12 (UTC)

• Added Harrah's (more info soon)
  • Did I miss it? Both Harrahs and Harrah's redirect to Harrah's Entertainment which is the company and not the hotel.Vegaswikian 00:12, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Edited some wording
• Edited resort names (not page titles) to better reflect common use names.
• Expanded footbridge section, although footbridge is a valid term, I like what the news-casters called them (although lengthy), Overhead Pedestrian Walkways.

Comments? (This is Guy M ^(talk) reporting live, one block from L.V. Blvd. South) 15:40, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

I like the overhead bit. I had just asked about this on another page and will use it there. Thanks for the idea.Vegaswikian 04:13, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• • I added a few major hotels with mixed feelings. They have their own web pages and checkin so, they are really like a hotel.Vegaswikian 04:54, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Here is a list of resorts that I think need to have a page created.
  • Sahara Hotel→ Sahara (hotel and casino)²
  • Riviera Hotel→ Riviera (hotel and casino)²
  • Harrah's Las Vegas
  • Imperial Palace Hotel→ Imperial Palace (hotel and casino)²
  • Flamingo Las Vegas
  • Barbary Coast Hotel→ Barbary Coast (hotel and casino)²

When they are added these links will go from red to blue. If someone has a better name, adjust what I have suggested when you create the page.Vegaswikian 00:12, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

(&sup2) Suggestions:

• Drop the use of "Las Vegas" as a suffix, unless it's part of the business name or referencing a single location that is also exists in another city?
  • Good: Caesars Palace Las Vegas (Currently as Caesars Palace)
  • Bad: Luxor Las Vegas
  • Ugly: Flamingo → Flamingo Las Vegas but not Flamingo (hotel and casino) / Flamingo Timbuktu disambiguates from pink birds
• "hotel" and/or "casino" only be applied without ( )'s if part of the business name? And use of "(hotel and/or casino)" only when a needed for disambiguation?
  • Good: Rio (hotel and casino)
  • Bad: The Mirage (hotel and casino)
  • Ugly: See above
• Avoid use of "&", use "and" instead? & is not frequently used in the formal style of publishing.

I might be without net access starting April 22 for an unknown period. I'll do all the editing I can, until then.

Guy M ^(Talk) 15:57, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Westward Ho

I removed the comments about the largest motel since everyone lists it as a hotel casino, even the Westward Ho on their site. I found no support for the claim of 1,000 rooms. I did find two different room counts 777 and 900. I used the 777 since it matches what Frommers lists, and they are usually correct.Vegaswikian 05:26, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

777 is what they quoted my on the phone when I called. …Guy M… ^(soapbox) 03:55, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hotel and Motel

I'm not argueing what a hotel or motel is, but the definitions:

• Motel n. An establishment that provides lodging for motorists in rooms usually having direct access to an open parking area.¹
• Hotel n. An establishment that provides lodging and usually meals and other services for travelers and other paying guests.¹

¹ Definitions © 2007 Lexico Publishing Group, LLC Used under fair use laws of the U.S.

IMHO, the following concept is more accurate of a motel:

• Motel - A type of hotel in which parking is provided at or near the room and the room door gives out opens onto the parking lot. (HomeBased Travelagent)

... and motels do not have a single lobby entrance for access, hotels do.

Guy M ^(Talk) 11:27, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

"...door gives out..."? Sounds like the Del Mar! (Inside joke)

Guy M ^(Talk) 11:43, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Casino Royale

Is this really a major strip hotel? Should this be dropped from the table? Vegaswikian 23:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"major", perhaps not. Unless you want to define what "major" is -- such as having more than ## rooms, something quantitative and factual. Still, it is a hotel/casino on the Strip along with Barbary Coast and Boardwalk. SpikeJones 16:31, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate Info?

Somebody started a Las Vegas Boulevard page. Looks pretty unnecessary to me. Thoughts? SpikeJones 16:31, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Based on looking at the edit history, it was mostly duplicate data. It is currently a redirect to the strip. I am planning on writing an article on this since it is not just the strip. It runs from Apex to south of Jean and there are some interesting points of interest in there. Vegas is odd in that we have fewer streets articles then several other major cities, so adding a few when we have the time does make sense. I'd also like to add one for Fremont street, don't know about any more at this point. Some streets like FSD might be mentioned on the person's page or in passing on some other article. Vegaswikian 23:12, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Looks like User:Brianckeegan has also created the Las Vegas Valley article which again has duplicate data. I thought we were trying to avoid duplicate articles and has the basic structure in place. I'll drop a note on his page. Vegaswikian 23:22, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Standardizing hotel/casino/resort naming convention

I'm the new wikipedian terrorizing the Vegas pages, I've lived in Green Valley since the early 90s. Sorry about the duplicates, was not aware of this discussion. However I would like to know more about the very "diverse" convention for naming hotel/casino/resorts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hotels_of_Las_Vegas

• See the missing resorts for some discussion on this. As I understand it, you should use the formal name as the article name unless it has, or will have, other articles that want the same name. Also remember the ~~~~ to sign entries. The above link could have been listed in a better wiki format as Category:Hotels of Las Vegas, yea took me a while to find that one. Vegaswikian 18:52, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I should have added you can take a look at Golden Nugget Companies to see how the three Golden Nugget casinos are named. If you want to change an article name you can by using the Move option, just enter the new name. You should also use the What links here in the toolbox to see what pages link to the old name and then edit all of these to correctly link to the new article name. It you think it may be a problem, use the articles discussion page to explain what you are planning. 19:03, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] July 8, 2005 data in History

This is not encylopedic history, but crystal ball. Not sure that it should be completly deleted or not. It probably should not be kept in history here, since it is not even on the strip. Do we need a place to track major projects? Even failed ones can be notable given the notable people behind them. Comments? Vegaswikian 06:18, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• All true. Lack of a better place. Move it to where you see fit. :) SpikeJones 14:13, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Downtown Las Vegas redirects to Las Vegas Strip

Hey folks, I just noticed that Downtown Las Vegas is set up to redirect to this page. Those of us who live (or have lived) in LV will realize that they aren't the same location. In common usage, "downtown" Las Vegas refers to Fremont Blvd. west of Las Vegas Blvd. - a different location than the Las Vegas strip (generally Las Vegas Blvd. from about Fremont in the north to Sunset in the south).

The downtown hotels would include the Four Queens, Fitzgerald's, the Golden Nugget, Binion's Horseshoe, the Fremont, as well as the entire Fremont Street Experience. Strip hotels would include most of the newer ones (The Mirage, Luxor, Treasure Island, Paris, NYNY, Ballagio, etc.)

I think we should unredirect the two and perhaps set "Downtown Las Vegas" to redirect to "Fremont Street Experience." At the very least, we should put a disambiguation page describing the two options for "downtown" since different people will have different ideas about what constitutes downtown Las Vegas. Having those two options on a disambiguation page will satisfy 99.9% of them.

Also, under the History section of this article, the first line makes reference to a "Highway 91" which no longer exists, if it ever did at all. Highways 93 and 95 are the closest I remember, and I couldn't find Hwy 91 on a mapquest search either. Is it a mistake, or have the highways been renamed? ZZYZX 11:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

• Should not go to the Strip for sure! I'll change to a DAB, feel free to modify. And as I understand it, there was a US 91 from several old sources. Vegaswikian 00:24, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Another Missing Hotel

I believe the O'Sheas Casino is located on the strip and is missing from the schematic. MarkMascolino 04:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The Sahara is missing from the box at the bottom (as it is on all pages that contain this box). I've tried to work out how to edit it myself but to no avail Speedything 13:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added back in the virtual tour of Las Vegas strip

Its been in the page for a long time and has value in that it has virtual tours of all the Las Vegas Strip Hotels. The site has some commerical links but is minimal in comparison to many in wiki. I would be curious what Vegaswikian thoughts are? (D360 01:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC))

• It is a commerical link site. As such it should not be used. While it provides some pictures, it does not add much information to the article. See Wikipedia:External links. Vegaswikian 03:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure it is a commercial site but I could point to many many instances of links to commercial sites that provide legible value to an article. I can say that I personally photographed over 40 hotels and this site has the only comprehensive look inside and outside each hotel with 360 virtual tours. I think you can only get so much out of copy and the rest needs to be seen visually. (D360 22:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC))

• So, you are agreeing that this is not appropiate based on Wikipedia:External links. Vegaswikian 03:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Imperial Palace / Harrahs Placement in the "map"

I noticed but do not have the skill to properly edit the schematic map of the strip that the Imperial Palace and Harrahs are in the wrong locations relative to one another. I believe that just above the Flamingo on the schematic should be the Imperial Palace and THEN Harrahs, but the way it looks right now, one who is visiting for the first time will expect to go from Flamingo straight to Harrahs. If someone can fix that, that would be great.

~Sasheena 23:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)Sasheena

Thanks for editing the page for me.

[edit] Major Hotel Locations - What's the Proper Content?

I noticed that this section is inconsistent as to what is included. For example:

1. The Stardust is still listed on the map, even though it was closed in November 2006. Other closed hotels are not included. I believe that the Stardust should be removed from the map. Anyone disagree?

2. Project City Center, a future "hotel" (more about that later), is included, yet other projects are not (e.g., Echelon Place, Encore, Palazzo). The issue of future projects is tricky, not only because they're future, but because many of the projects don't neatly fit in the category of "hotel". For example, Project City Center (an MGM Mirage project) will include a main hotel, condominiums, and some boutique hotels not even operated by Mgm Mirage. Do we list each of the hotels separately? The same will be true for Echelon Place: do we list the separately managed Shangri-La, Delano, and Mondrian hotels separately? I propose that, for future projects, it's best just to list the overall project, but that we should list all major projects: Project City Center, Echelon Place, Encore, and Palazzo. I'd leave out Montreux - it's been approved, but the property on which it will be built still hosts the New Frontier. Once they're open, the separately operated hotels should be listed separately. Comments? Larry 18:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

• The maps and lists depend on updates. It is easy to miss needed corrections if a large number of editors are not looking at a specific page. So, if there are errors, please do fix them. Bad edits are usually noticed since most of these articles are on the watch lists for many editors. I really don't know how project City Center should be listed. On one hand a single entry would be cleaner and fit better. However to be more accurate, all of the hotels and casinos really should be listed. Don't know of a good answer at this point in time. Vegaswikian 22:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Boulevard?

I've live in and around Las Vegas for 20 years, and my business has made it necessary for me to go into most of the Strip casinos on a weekly basis, and I've never heard the Strip referred to as the Boulevard. Las Vegas Boulevard, sometimes, but never just The Boulevard. I guess I could be wrong, maybe the 20 something nightclub patrons call it the Boulevard, so I haven't just edited the main text, but I was hoping someone here would either agree or tell me I'm wrong.

• Well, I'm here over 10 years and not sure. If someone says The Boulevard, I think of The Boulevard Mall. Vegaswikian 19:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Think it's okay to edit the opening "(also known as The Strip and to local residents as The Boulevard) " and to take out "and to local residents as The Boulevard"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mikevegas40 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Bourbon Street Demolished

Bourbon Street was demolished last year, does it belong on the list of closed hotels? While not technically on the Strip, was it very different from the Paddlewheel/Debbie Reynolds? Mikevegas40 19:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orleans shuttles

According to their website, the Orleans still offers shuttle service. May not be the one that was removed, but someone should doublecheck to be sure. SpikeJones 12:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)