Talk:Lavoisier Group
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[edit] SDR
I will show more courtesy than the person who has proposed this article for speedy deletion and will discuss the reasons why I object.
Speedy Deletion Request of this article, which I have created, has been requested by User:FireWeed after a debate between us about whether Intelligent Design is, or is not, junk science (please see Talk:Junk science and the corresponding times of his/her contributions).
This user has also repetedly added notability and POV tags to the article without providing reasons.
The Lavoisier Group is a relevant think tank in Australia about the uncertainties that may underpin the Kyoto Protocol. It also discusses the economic consequences that global warming public policies may have on Australia.
A Google search of The Lavoisier Group produces enough occurences to confirm its notability.
Finally, this article is still in its early stages and will in time contribute links to the very active Wiki pages about global warming and the surrounding controversy. --Childhood's End 21:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Notability
The lavoisier group, an Australian astroturf operation, is simply not notable. It's great that some Wikipedian editors are volunteering to spread publicity about them, however Wikipedia itself is not a directory for political interest groups. This article fails WP:Notability and WP:NPOV, as well as being unreferenced. FireWeed 22:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- You still need to explain your NPOV argument, which does not support SDR anyway. You seem to define NPOV by your own POV, which is not how Wikipedia works. And your notability argument seems to be that The Lavoisier Group fails the notability test because it is not notable. Try a Google search. If The Lavoisier Group fails the notability test, there are a lot of think tanks that will need deletion on Wikipedia.
- This whole article is sourced on the company's web site and provides no OR.
- Further, I find your actual behaviour to be quite uncivil. It is only a small and normal thing to discuss NPOV before adding tags on a page. Apologies would be appreciated. --Childhood's End 22:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Appologies ... in the interest of full disclosure, exactly what is your affiliation with this group? You take it personally that another editor objects to promoting the group's agenda - why?
- For the record, a subject's web site fails Wikipedia's source policy, for very obvious reasons. FireWeed 22:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- How can you pretend here that I am affiliated with this organization? This is offending. Besides, I live in Canada. A few miles away from Australia. But can I say that you seem pretty much determined in having this article removed? How hard do you believe in global warming? --Childhood's End 22:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
