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Just getting this going for now, who knows, it may become a centralised resource for us all.

Feel free to add info to it. Ive got to finish the format of the main page and then we can sublink etc. Best to read up a wee bit on links and pages etc in the Help section, as it is useful to have at least the basic formating knowledge. Dont be scared to add though and i or others can always fix it up if you put the main content in. :)

Cheers, Tim aka Gawa and others..

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:O i cant build the whole wiki in one go! Thats why i put the note saying that it was still under construction.. without all the info of history and advice etc i can see that it may look like an ad or something, but it certainly isnt. it will take me a while to get all the info into the site. hmm, i have to dash just now, but will look here again later tonight. cheers IrishTim 17:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Ther reason for the proposed deletion is that the information may not belong here. If the game doesn't meet wikipedia's notability criteria, which in this case are to be found at WP:WEB, then the article is likely to be deleted, however much information is included about it. Percy Snoodle 18:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, hmm, yep i understood that.. this game has already been mentioned in the references i made. It has been mentioned on several other wikipedia.org pages already. It has been running since 1993 and was the top most played online game in Europe at one time... its sister game Legends of Cosrin also run by Online Games Company has a wiki here also... i still cant quite understand why (the completed wiki which will cover the games indepth history) it may be not belong?

When i look at other examples of current wikis here for other online games, i would assume these are acceptable and take notes as to how they are laid out.

:/ well, if after this you still want to delete it, i give up and will wiki elsewhere :( IrishTim 19:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I've no complaint with the layout - it's the notability of the game that concerns me. If you can cite a reliable source to show it wsa the most-played online game in Europe, I'll happily remove the prod notice. Percy Snoodle 07:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

ok.. ive added back in the link that i had in previously (not sure why it was deleted?)

This is the relevant excerpt from that tinymud difersication link: MUD's ,TinyMUD's ,and specifically TinyMUD and diversification

"Curiously by closing the Sheffield site it provided one Avalon player, Paul Barnett (Now creative Director for the Warhammer Online MMO at EA Mythic), to design and write the Legends of Terris MUD engine with Doug Goldner.

AOL Europe had also opened up operations within Europe and was looking for a European MUD game to offer to the European subscribers. AOL US already ran several highly successful games including Dragons Gate (Mythic Entertainment, later to launch Dark age of Camelot), Federation (A space trading game again written by an Englishman) and Gem Stone III (Simutronics, later to launch a Heroes journey). At this time Gem Stone III. AOL Europe was a looking for a game that could meet a European audience. Legends of Terris was selected to be AOL Europe’s flagship MUD. At this time European commercial Games had around 30-50 players connected at once. Legends of Terris was launched on AOL Europe at the end of the year. The game was also translated into French and German. Within one month is had over 600 player connected to it at once.

Meanwhile Legends of Terris had become the largest commercial MUD in Europe with over 2000 simultaneous players connected at once. It was now generating over 250,000 game hours worth of revenue for AOL.

Gem Stone III continued to dominate the commercial MUD world, at its height it attracted 6000 concurrent users. In Europe Legends of Terris topped the charts with highs of 2500 concurrent users. How much of this is due to the games or access via AOL is open to speculation. It is interesting to note that Gem Stone III, Avalon and Legends of Terris are all commercially operating today." IrishTim 11:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid Wikipedia isn't considered as a source for Wikipedia; see WP:RS and WP:NOR. I've added a request for a citation to the page you quote, and since you've removed the prod tag I'll feel compelled to take this to AFD if you can't cite a source. However, if you can cite a reliable source external to wikipedia, I'm sure the page won't be deleted. Percy Snoodle 12:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hmm, i didnt delete the prod warning..

...! i didnt remove the prod thingy.. all i did was add in the link at the end! (going now to double check the history) IrishTim 12:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, that was an IP address user. Percy Snoodle 12:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

ahhh ok, wierd.. well, feel free to add the deletion message back in if you want. ill look for exeternal source when im at home. i cant access some sites here from work heh. IrishTim 12:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] links i need to check later

Hi, thanks for the tidyup :) I have a few links i want to check over when i get home away from this damn intranet web filter that is blockin me :P Im listing them here so i remember and if you really wanted to you can have a glance, or wait for me to check them and post them if relevant.

http://war.molgam.net/news.php (half way down page - interview)
http://www.gameogre.com/reviewdirectory/categories/MUDs.php
http://www.war-rvr.net/
http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/og97.htm
http://wo.gamona.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=825
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/65/18
http://www.onlinegamescompany.com/whoarewe.shtml

IrishTim 12:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - two of those do support the "largest MUD in europe" claim so I've added them as references. Percy Snoodle 10:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok! Hi again Percy, ive added the citation you requested (number 5). I think things should be sorted, at least for now eh? :) Cheers IrishTim 02:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Yep, looks good to me. Percy Snoodle 12:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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