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[edit] Appointment as Augustus

The following indicates the influence of Licinius immediately following the reaffirmation of Galerius position of Augustus in the East:

Though declared a usurper, Maxentius kept control of Rome and Italy, effectively limiting Licinius to no more than Illyricum; by 312 Maxentius had even extended his rule to North Africa. In the meantime, Maximian unsuccessfully turned against his son, and fled to Constantine in Gaul, whom he also later tried to overthrow— an attempt that led to his death in 310. Maximin Daia, resentful that Galerius had chosen Licinius rather than himself as Augustus in the West, had induced his own troops to proclaim him Augustus; Galerius recognized the title in 309— 310.

Boatwright, Mary T. Romans : From Village to Empire. Cary, NC, USA: Oxford University Press, Incorporated, 2004. p 451.

This would seem to indicate that popular support of Maximin Daia and Maxentius forced Galerius to affirm his proclamation of Augustus in the West.L Hamm 06:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On Licinius Life After Chrysopolis

The raising of a barbarian army by Licinius while under house arrest in Thessalonike, seems to be dubious, at best having been related much after the fact:

In the next century the historian Socrates claims to know that Licinius had plotted with some barbarians to renew the war— not a very likely story at all.

from Pohlsander, Hans A. Constantine. London, UK: Routledge, 1996. p 43. L Hamm 07:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reason for War Between Constantine I and Licinius

The article states that treasonous actions on the part of Licinius, and public anger at them, caused the outbreak of war. However, the Encyclopedia of World Biography in its entry on Constantine I states:

By 313 Constantine and Licinius were established as corulers of the Roman world. Their relationship was cemented in that year by the marriage of Licinius to Constantine's half sister Constantia; but jealousy and ambition [it does not state whose] generated friction and suspicion between the emperors, and in 323 war broke out after Constantine had violated Licinius's territory. Licinius was defeated and deposed, but his life was spared at the intercession of Constantia. The following year, however, Constantine found it expedient to execute him.

I recommend a revision of that section - or a citing of primary sources one way or the other, for it is contradicted as it stands now.

L Hamm 23:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

  • I deleted "The outward reconciliation left Licinius in possession of Thrace, Asia Minor, Syria and Egypt, but he later added numerous provinces to Constantine's control." in the second to the last paragraph, as it read like Licinius is voluntarily giving provinces to Constantine. Which is weird. Futher, the reconciliation apparently lasted for 10 years. Sounds a little more substantial that an "outward reconciliation". Naerhu 09:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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