Talk:List of Life Peerages

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Should this be combined with List of life peers ? FZ 00:03, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Also, there's overlap with List of life baronies. —Ashley Y 22:28, 2004 Sep 30 (UTC)

I've redirected both pages here, as nothing linked to them. I'll produce an exception report shortly of the differences between the three... sjorford 12:54, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Creation dates not matching

List of Life Peerages and List of life baronies match on all creation dates, but List of life peers differs in a few cases:

• Baron Rhodes - 14/09/64 (LoLP) or 12/09/64 (Lolp)
• Baron Murray of Newhaven - 17/09/64 or 16/09/64
• Baron Redcliffe-Maud - 06/07/67 or 07/07/67
• Baroness Llewelyn-Davies of Hastoe - 29/08/67 or 27/08/67
• Baron Noel-Baker - 22/07/77 or 20/07/77
• Baron Stevens of Ludgate - 27/03/87 or 03/03/87
• Baroness Blatch - 07/04/87 or 04/07/87
• Baron Sainsbury of Preston Candover - 31/01/89 or 31/07/89

Names not matching

The following names are different on this page (shown first) and on List of life peers:

• Florence Gertrude Horsbrugh (Baroness Horsbrugh) - Florence Gertrude Horsburgh (Baroness Horsburgh) - ok
• Peter Allan Renshaw Blaker (Baron Blaker) - Peter Allen Renshaw Blaker
• John Primatt Redcliffe Redcliffe-Maud (Baron Redcliffe-Maud) - John Primatt Redcliffe Maud
• Annie Patricia Llewelyn-Davies (Baroness Llewelyn-Davies of Hastoe) - Anne Patricia Llewelyn-Davies
• William Hartley Shawcross (Baron Shawcross) - Hartley William Shawcross
• Austin Richard William Low, 1st Baron Aldington (Baron Low) - Toby Austin Richard William Low
• Barbara Frances Wright (Baroness Wootton of Abinger) - Barbara Frances Wootton Wright
• Katharine Elliot (Baroness Elliot of Harwood) - Katherine Elliot
• Eric Cyril Boyd Edwards (Baron Chelmer) - Eric Cecil Boyd Edwards
• Arthur Gwynne Jones (Baron Chalfont) - Alun Arthur Gwynne Jones
• Helen Violet Bonham Carter (Baroness Asquith of Yarnbury) - Helen Violet Bonham-Carter
• Alma Birk (Baroness Birk) - Alma Lillian Birk
• Charles James Garnsworthy (Baron Garnsworthy) - Charles William Garnsworthy
• Charles George Percy Smith (Baron Delacourt-Smith) - Charles George Percy Delacourt-Smith
• Laurence Norman Helsby (Baron Helsby) - Lawrence Norman Helsby
• Donald Gresham Stokes (Baron Stokes) - Donald Graham Stokes
• John Wheatley (Baron Wheatley) - John Thomas Wheatley
• Charles Hector Fitzroy Maclean (Baron Maclean) - Charles Hector Fitz Roy Maclean
• Horace Maybray Maybray-King (Baron Maybray-King) - Horace Maybray King
• Victor Grayson Hardie Feather (Baron Feather) - Victor Grayson Hardy Feather
• Goronwy Owen Goronwy-Roberts (Baron Goronwy-Roberts) - Goronwy Owen Roberts
• Michael Antony Cristobal Noble (Baron Glenkinglas) - Michael Anthony Christobal Noble
• Robert Grant Grant-Ferris (Baron Harvington) - Robert Grant-Ferris
• Nicholas Kaldor (Baron Kaldor) - Miklos Kaldor
• Hugh Kinsman Cudlipp (Baron Cudlipp) - Hugh Kusman Cudlipp
• Braham Jack Dennis Lyons (Baron Lyons of Brighton) - Dennis Lyons
• Lew Grade (Baron Grade) - Louis Winogradsky
• Joseph Kagan (Baron Kagan) - Joseph Kaganas
• Henry Reginall Underhill (Baron Underhill) - Henry Reginald Underhill
• Thomas Gray Boardman (Baron Boardman) - Thomas Grey Boardman
• John John-Mackie (Baron John-Mackie) - John Mackie
• Peter Thomas Bauer (Baron Bauer) - Peter Tomas Bauer
• James Hector Northey (Hamish) Gray (Baron Gray of Contin) - James Hector Northey Gray
• Derek Colclough Walker-Smith (Baron Broxbourne) - Derek Colcough Walker-Smith
• Gloria Hooper (Baroness Hooper) - Gloria Dorothy Hooper
• Robert Joseph Mellish (Baron Mellish) - Robert John Mellish
• Aubrey Geoffrey Frederick Rippon (Baron Rippon of Hexham) - Aubrey Geoffrey Francis Rippon
• John Donkin Dormand (Baron Dormand of Easington) - John Donkins Dormand
• Norman Antony Francis St John-Stevas (Baron St John of Fawsley) - Norman Anthony Francis St John-Stevas
• Daphne Margaret Sybil Dsire Park (Baroness Park of Monmouth) - Daphne Margaret Sybil Desirée Park
• Stanley Clinton Clinton-Davis (Baron Clinton-Davis) - Stanley Clinton Davis
• Lydia Selina Dunn (Baroness Dunn) - Lydia Selena Dunn
• Geoffrey Leonard Cheshire (Baron Cheshire) - George Leonard Cheshire
• Merlyn Merlyn-Rees (Baron Merlyn-Rees) - Merlyn Rees
• Julian Amery (Baron Amery of Lustleigh) - Harold Julian Amery
• Dafydd Elis Elis-Thomas (Baron Elis-Thomas) - Dafydd Elis Thomas
• Ralf Dahrendorf (Baron Dahrendorf) - Ralf Gustav Dahrendorf
• Alfred Dubs (Baron Dubs) - Alfred Max Dubs
• Tom McNally (Baron McNally) - Thomas McNally
• Helene Valerie Hayman (Baroness Hayman) - Hélène Valerie Hayman
• John Alderdice (Baron Alderdice) - John Thomas Alderdice
• David Russell Russell-Johnston (Baron Russell-Johnston) - David Russell Johnston
• Paul Bertrand Hamlyn (Baron Hamlyn) - Paul Hamlyn
• Alexander James Trotman (Baron Trotman) - Alexander Trotman
• Bhikhu Chotalal Parekh (Baron Parekh) - Bhikhu Chhotalal Parekh
• Sheila Valerie Masters (Baroness Noakes) - Sheila Valerie Noakes
• Charles Ronald Llewelyn Guthrie (Baron Guthrie of Craigiebank) - Charles Ronald Llewellyn Guthrie
• Elspeth Rosamund Morton Howe (Baroness Howe of Idlicote) - Elspeth Rosamond Morton Howe
• Eric John Francis James (Baron James of Rusholme) - Eric Francis James
• Wilfred Banks Duncan Brown (Baron Brown) - Wilfrid Banks Duncan Brown
• Robert Platt (Baron Platt) - Richard Platt
• George Fielden MacLeod (Baron MacLeod of Fuinary) - George MacLeod
• Susan Lilian Primrose Cunliffe-Lister, Baroness Masham (Baroness Masham of Ilton) - Susan Lillian Primrose Cunliffe-Lister
• Gwilym Elfed Davies (Baron Davies of Penrhys) - Gwilyn Elfed Davies
• Morrice James (Baron Saint Brides) - John Morrice Cairns James
• Jeremy Nicolas Hutchinson (Baron Hutchinson of Lullington) - Jeremy Nicholas St. John Hutchinson
• Edwin Rodney Smith (Baron Smith) - Rodney Smith
• Mark Raymond Bonham Carter (Baron Bonham-Carter) - Mark Raymond Bonham-Carter
• Brenda Dean (Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde) - Brenda McDowall
• Meta Ramsay (Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale) - Margaret Mildred Ramsay
• Narendra Babubhai Patel (Baron Patel) - Narendra Badubhai Patel

The data on this page is from this page, which is one of the most accurate lists available on the internet, so I'd be inclined to trust the dates given here. Many of the surname anomalies result from people having to change their name from Forename Surname to Forename Forename-Surname in order to be created Baron Forename-Surname, changes which don't seem to be reflected in the other list. In most cases, though, where one list gives more names than the other, the version with more names seems more likely to be accurate. Thus this list's Alma Birk is probably incorrect given that the other list has her as Alma Lillian Birk. Proteus (Talk) 17:37, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've struck out the Forename Forename-Surname cases, as nobody would actually refer to "John Mackie" as "John John-Mackie". sjorford 14:00, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] On Frederic Seebohm

Frederic Seebohm (1833-1912) was a British economic historian. The Frederic Seebohn of April, 1972, in this article cannot be the same person, ergo, a distinguishing title ought to be produced for him. I'm unfamiliar with the proper wordage, so someone who knows of English royalty ought to step in and fix the name of the 1972 man. GhostofSuperslum 05:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I have successfully produced Frederic Seebohm (1833-1912). Please re-title the Frederic Seebohm in this article. Gratias. GhostofSuperslum 06:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I have renamed him Frederic Seebohm (Life peer) to separate him from Frederic Seebohm economic historian. That may suffice. GhostofSuperslum 00:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)