Talk:List of Oregon State Parks/Archive

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Contents 1 Skate parks 2 New article 3 Clay Myers State Natural Area 4 Any objection to delinking Skate parks?

Skate parks

I've compared this list to 2 other sources: Jan Bannan's book (listed in the Bibliography on the main page), & a 2000 pamphlet from the oregon State Parks and Recreation Department. Based on this checking, I've removed the following for reasons stated:

1. Skate parks. Sorry folks, this is a list of State parks, not any kind of recreational place open to the public. And I am quite sure that the Burnside Skate Park is not operated by the State of Oregon.

• Astoria Skate Park External website
• Aumsville Skate Park External website
• Brookings Skate Park External website
• Burnside Skate Park External website
• Donald Skate park External website
• Hood River Skate Park External website
• Lincoln City Skate Park External website
• Milton-Freewater Skate Park External website
• Newberg Skate Park External website
• Redmont Skate Park External website

2. Rest Areas. If we include them, let's include all of them. However, I don't think we should include any rest areas, due to the fact that the presence of public toilets & a charity selling coffee doesn't meet the standards of notability.

• Maples Rest Area
• Wallowa River Rest Area

3. Disputed Items. Between this list, Bannan's book, the brochure mentioned above, & my own knowledge, if an item doesn't get mentioned in at least 2 of these, I don't think it should be included -- although one or two sound as if they should be included. If you disagree, find a trustworthy source to cite & prove that one or more of the following should be on this list; otherwise, let's keep it off of the main list.

• Clay Myers State Natural Area at Whalen Island
• Crissey Field State Recreation Site
• Dwyer Wayside -- listed in Bannan's book, but I can't place it, nor is it mentioned in the Parks' Department brochure.
• Fort Rock Cave
• The Cove Palisades State Park
• Tokatee Klootchman State Natural Site
• Unity Forest State Scenic Corridor
• Winchuck State Recreation Site

llywrch 03:24, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

As I recall, I compiled the list originally from the web site of Oregon State Parks. Whatever they had put on the list, I included. I had no other source than that. -- Decumanus 05:54, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)

I noticed right away that "Fort Rock Cave" appeared to be a duplicate of the entry immediately before it; probably an error from the OSP website. I think Clay Myers is still alive -- & in any case, he's hardly the famous politician that a park would be named for -- so I would be very surprised to see a park named for him.

My whole intent is that it's better to keep verifying information here in Wikipedia, than just assume it must be correct. Not trying to put blame on anyone, Matt. -- llywrch 21:50, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Up until 5 minutes ago I totally thought the page was titled Oregon Skate Parks. D'oh! Cacophony 16:48, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

Well yes it's quite possible there are errors or typos. I think their official site didn't have a single list, but was in several HTML columns/pages that I had to splice together. -- Decumanus 00:52, 2005 Feb 24 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think we ought to have an article about the Burnside Skate Park. I understand that it's in the 10 most notable parks in the US. -- llywrch 21:50, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

New article

A new list is being created at List of Oregon State Parks/New article PDXblazers 02:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Clay Myers State Natural Area

I put it back on the list on the basis of the following: 1. It is owned and managed by the Parks & Recreation Dept., and while the word "Park" is not in its name in order to denote it being kept in a more natural state, it meets the dictionary definition of one (certainly more so than museums on the list). 2. It was named after H. Clay Myers, who was arguably one of the three most powerful Oregon politicians in his day, and whose was a fierce proponent of environmental and naturalist causes (Oregon's beaches would still be subject to private ownership without his brokering the McCall plan to make public access the law). The August 1, 2001, minutes of the Oregon Parks & Recreation Commission (held at the Ford Family Foundation site in Roseburg)show that the proposal to name the area after Myers carried unanimously.[1]. 3. It meets the criteria for an article title, should one ever be written, under MoS as both an official and a "popular" name, and for notability (a quick and rough Google-check on "Clay Myers Whalen Island" produces 80,600+ hits, admittedly only a spot check, but surprising to me).

It should be noted that it is only the State Parks lands at Whalen Island, and that the area includes more developed park facilities owned and operated by Tillamook County, although that's beyond the scope of this article, being only a list. -- "J-M" (Jgilhousen) 19:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

In brief: no need to have "park" in something's name to be included on this list, if managed by P & R. Lots of these used to be called parks have been renamed, but not necessarily "demoted". Katr67 21:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Any objection to delinking Skate parks?

I think the discussion about skate parks should be archived, now that everyone is clear on what's going on here. Does anyone object to my unlinking the skatepark redlinks before I do this? I have a feeling there are not going to be any articles written about them... Katr67 21:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)