Talk:List of Queens neighborhoods
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[edit] Classification of Queens neighborhoods
I think we sould classify Queens neighborhoods by the postal town (ie Long Island City, Jamaica, Flushing, and Far Rockawa) they belong too. That's why I put a {{stub}} template. I don't do it myself because I know nothing about it, I'm not a New Yorker.--Revas 7 July 2005 16:02 (UTC)
I think "postal towns" are pretty useless, as they have no real bearing on the neighborhoods in Queens. For example, the Flushing postal town covers a vastly larger area than Flushing, and many areas that are nothing like Flushing at all (Jackson Heights? Woodside? Maspeth? They might as well be Brooklyn.) In addition, I think such a method of classification would just confuse people.
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- Federal legislation introduced by Cong. Gary Ackerman was passed in response to years of constituents complaints that the imposition of groups of postal zones as "cities/towns" by the USPS was unnecessary and removed the identity of neighborhoods. Furthermore, the postal town names never reflected the pre-1898 political affiliation of these neighborhoods, for example Woodside was formerly part of the town of Newtown and not the town of Flushing.
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- Exactly. The "postal towns" simply do not correspond to accurate neighborhood boundaries. In no way, shape, or form is Woodside part of Flushing, nor is there basis for grouping into the same category as a neighborhood like Whitestone which is so different. Also, putting Astoria in a separate postal town from Woodside makes no sense as the neighborhoods are more similar to each other than Woodside is to Whitestone.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wizard1022 (talk • contribs) .
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- If I can find an official statement on the status of the former postal towns, I will update this article and the Queens article. patsw 20:47, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Review
I spent some time this evening with the Encyclopedia of New York City (Jackson, 1995) and came up with the following for discussion here before I apply the updates.
[edit] Contemplating deletion
- Bowne Park (a park, not a neighborhood name)
- New Howard Beach
- Parkside
- Rockaway Point
- Utopia (the name of a neighborhood never built)
- Westmoreland
[edit] Editing
- Bowery Bay => Bowery Bay Beach
- Forest Hills Gardens (housing development)
- Ramblersville (to 1916, now Howard Beach)
- Sunnyside Gardens (housing development)
- Trainsmeadow (to 1915, now Jackson Heights)
[edit] Add
- Winfield
- Whitepot (to 1910, now Rego Park and Forest Hills)
patsw 04:13, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oakland Gardens (next to Bayside)
[edit] Dropping the USPS postal "cities" groupings
The USPS "cities" grouping are no longer in effect. They are obsolete. It is inaccurate to retain them in the article. patsw 04:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Neighborhoods
Utopia and Rockaway Point is a neighborhood in Queens. If you look at the NYC Department of City Planning website, it shows both Utopia and Rockaway Point in there on the Community Board map and on the Ambassador Yellow Pages for New York City. Parkside is a neighborhood in Queens because if you look up the zipcode 11375, It shows Parkside as not acceptable and that if you search for maps of neighborhoodso of Queens, you might find Parkside in there, just like I did. Westmoreland and New Howard Beach aren't neighborhoods of Queens since there isn't any reference to it nor any map but there is a neighborhood called Old Howard Beach in Queens. CrnaGora 00:12, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Rockaway Point is not in the profile for Queens Community Planning Board 14 [1]
- Utopia does not exist:
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- Utopia Playground takes its name from a housing development in Queens that was never built. [2]
- Parkside, if it really were a neighborhood would be one in Brooklyn... [3]
- Zip code 11375, when one makes the official inquiry [4] returns FOREST HILLS, NY, (and PARKSIDE, NY not acceptable) patsw 02:16, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Rockaway Point appears on some maps -- north and east of Breezy Point. So I will retain it even though the local Community Planning Board doesn't list it. patsw 20:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
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- The Office of the Queens Borough President includes Bowne Park and Utopia on their map of Queens' neighborhoods. [5] -Chops79 20:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
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- It would be interesting to go into the areas so marked on the map and ask people who live there "What neighborhood is this?" or "¿Qué vecindad es ésta?" Would the answers be "Bowne Park" and "Utopia"? patsw 02:19, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Parson's Beach
Where is this neighborhood and do the people who live there call it "Parson's Beach"? patsw 21:52, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Neighborhoods of Queens
Utopia is a neighborhood because if you check the Queens Community Board 8 Website, It shows Utopia as being a neighborhood of Queens, as well as Flushing Heights, Flushing Suburban, and Hillcrest Estates neighborhoods as being in Queens. In Queens Community Boards website, It shows, Garden Bay, Utopia, Cunningham Heights, Hilltop Village, Flushing South, East Flushing, and Baisley Park as being neighborhoods in Queens. CrnaGora 21:19, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lost Neighborhoods?
From the New York Times
There is a lost neighborhood in Queens and, it turns out, it is most easily found via the parking lot of the International House of Pancakes on Rockaway Boulevard. There are no signs leading visitors to the area, which is called Meadowmere, patsw 22:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Neighborhood naming convention
In case anyone hadn't noticed, Wikipedia:Communities strawpoll is voting on a uniform naming convention for all neighborhoods of U.S. cities. The proposition currently leading by a wide margin would apparently entail renaming most New York City neighborhood articles to something like neighborhood, New York, New York. older ≠ wiser 19:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
