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Uhm, I know its kinda messed up, but at least its a start.....

My hope is that a list of countries be made (maybe grouped by continents so thts its easier), and next to it is a direct link to its the legal tender.

Uhm......... help?! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.76.250.53 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 22 December 2004 (UTC).

Well, this is my attempt at listing active currencies. I prefer to list them by currency codes and the country they're used in. Suggestions and help appreciated. Nightstallion 12:37, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK, listing it by currency codes is probably the best option, nice job....

You missed the Somaliland shilling. It meets the same criteria as the Trannistrian ruble: Fully self governing without international recognition. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.81.187.241 (talk • contribs) 08:14, 31 December 2004 (UTC).

Contents 1 Reformatting 2 Tristan Pound 3 Subdivisions 4 rename? 5 Formatting & additions 6 Symbols 7 Abkhazia, South Osetia 8 List of circulating currencies 9 Other currencies 10 Currency signs 11 Pegs, convertibility, promissory status 12 Swiss Currency Sign 13 Double entries 14 smallest/largest coin/banknote 15 Liechtenstein frank and Kiribati dollar 16 Kyrgyzstani Som and Uzbekistani som 17 Somali shilling and Somaliland shilling 18 Tajikistani somoni 19 Currency signs 20 Merge 21 Population - Usage 22 Template:Lists by country

[edit] Reformatting

I think that this page could use some changes, the following is what I think needs to be changed. Firstly, I think that the currencies should be arranged in a grid, like on the list of state leaders page. There would be a column for the county or territory, the currency, and then the ISO code. Also they should be arranged alphabetically by the country or territory that they are used in. The dependencies that use the same currency as the country that they are owned by, would be omitted and it should be noted at the top (all independent countries should be listed). I also think the little flags should be omitted, but if anyone objects I won’t really care. Lastly, I think some of the things under “Notes” should be deleted like the thing about Russia and Belarus using the same currency in the future, and other things that look like rumors. Please tell me what you thing about my ideas. If no one says any thing after a wile I make all the changes. Zntrip 13:44, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

I'd say, be bold. Personally, I really like the little flags, but maybe that's just me. Regarding the "rumours": Let me just add that all of these currency unions and other changes have in fact been mentioned numerous times in newspaper articles, so I thought them noteworthy. Nightstallion 14:12, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

I finished the "reformating," if someone could fix it up a little by addind flags or italics, or anything please do so. Zntrip 23:05, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, keep flags, the only thing that adds color. Other than that, if it makes it better, I'm all in. Joe I 07:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tristan Pound

Is there a currency called the Tristan pound that is used in Tristan da Cunha? There is very little information on Google. Dose anyone know anything? Zntrip 05:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

No there isn't they use the Saint Helena and English Pound. Enlil Ninlil 00:52, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subdivisions

Why are we featuring subdivisions for currencies that are such large denominations that they are no longer subdivided? For example, the following currencies do not feature subdivisions: Japanese yen, Chilean peso, New Taiwan dollar, Vietnamese dong. There are more and we should track them down and note them on this list. --Jiang 02:58, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

I put all of the subdivisions on because technically they are still legal tender even if you can’t use them. I don’t think it matters if it is noted that mills for example aren’t used in everyday transactions like a dollar bill, but that’s what the links are for. If you click on “Mill” you would find out that they would be legal tender if they made coin for them. So I don’t know. I don’t see the need to explain that some subdivisions aren’t used because of inflation, but I guess adding it at the top won’t hurt. – Zntrip 05:15, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

From what I understand, the sen has been demonetized in Japan. And if you want to put obsolete subdivisions, the sen was furtehr subdivided into 10 rin. According to the Vanuatu Vatu page, the Vatu has never been subdivided Nik42 07:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I think we should use footnotes. --Jiang 03:51, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

If you want to, go ahead. I don't know all of the countries that don't use fractional units. – Zntrip 01:55, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rename?

I'd like to create a list of all currencies (not just circulating currencies). I'd like to call it "List of currencies" which I obviously can't right now. Would anyone object if I renamed this to "List of circulating currencies"? Mom2jandk 20:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I would (sorry). You can find a list of "all" currencies on the currency page. If it is not complete (and it probably isn't complete) you can add the currencies there. This page is for currencies that are being used now, and the other page is for all currencies. – Zntrip 21:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, on the currency page, it's two lists, one for current, and one for historical. I don't think that lists should be embedded in pages, but that's a separate issue that I really should bring up on the currency talk page. Do you object to me creating a new list, or specifically to me renaming this list? That is, if I named a new list "List of all currencies", would that bother you? Even if I didn't create a new list, I think the name of this list is misleading, since to me, "List of currencies" implies "List of all currencies". Mom2jandk 21:31, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Good point. Have you seen List of historic currencies? That should be the list for historic currencies. Tell you what, I think you should rename this page List of active currencies. I won't object. As for the currency page I think it should be left alone. – Zntrip 21:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd have said either List of circulating currencies or List of currencies in use, but I'm principally in favour. ナイトスタリオン ✉ 10:52, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Hm. List of circulating currencies, implies that people actually use the currencies, this really is a list of official currencies, with a few de facto ones for places that don’t have their own currencies. How about List of official currencies? – Zntrip 05:46, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Mh, okay - but then we can never add the Transnistrian ruble to the list. ;) ナイトスタリオン ✉ 08:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Sure we can, it was declared official by the Transnistrian government. Uh, wait, was that a joke? Anyway, what does everybody think about renameing this page to List of official currencies? – Zntrip 23:26, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

If possible, I'd like to try to match the category structure proposal, whether that means picking a name for this article to match that (circulating) or changing that to match this. For the categories, there was a split Ancient/Medieval/Modern, and also Modern/Historical which had to be merged. So, I chose Ancient/Medieval/Modern obsolete/Circulating. I'm not tied to those names (or even that structure, if someone has a better idea), but since the category and the list will probably match, the names should probably also match. Mom2jandk 06:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

So, is "List of circulating currencies" okay? I understand zntrip's point, but I don't think "official currencies" works either for the list or the category because obsolete currencies are also official, just not active/circulating. We could use active and obsolete for the categories. I'm still partial to "circulating" even if it's not perfect, but whatever everyone else wants is fine with me. Ingrid 23:50, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good. ;) – Zntrip 23:58, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting & additions

The denominations shouldn't be capitalized, per the numismatics style guide. I don't want to deal with changing them though, so if no one else does, I guess they'll stay as is for now.

Also, what about the Channel Islands? They have their own coins (and maybe bills). I believe they're not exactly separate from the British pound, but not exactly equivalent either. UK money/legal tender status is confusing. There's no wikipedia entry for Alderney pound (but there is such a thing IRL). There is one for Guernsey pound, Isle of Man pound (which I believe should be Manx pound) and Jersey pound. Ingrid 22:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

The status of these currencies is similar to those of the Faroese krona to the Danish krone and of the Tuvaluan dollar to the Australian dollar: They're not separate as far as ISO and the international market are concerned, but they've got distinct notes and coins. ナイトスタリオン ✉ 22:59, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, Guernsey and Jersey have their own currencies. So they have their own banknotes too. I'll get to the denominations capitalized thing. And about the Manx pound, I think it is officialy the Isle of Man pound. – Zntrip 23:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

AFAIK, they're as separate from the Pound Sterling as the Faroese krona is from the Danish krone... I agree about the Isle of Man pound, though. ナイトスタリオン ✉ 23:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

What do you mean "it is officially the Isle of Man pound"? Isn't something from the Isle of Man called Manx? Isn't our style guide to use "Somewhereian", i.e., Manx? I'm happy to be corrected when I'm wrong, I just want to understand. Thanks for taking care of the capitalization, zntrip. I hate to mention something like that when I don't want to deal with it myself. Ingrid 01:36, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

I think its called the Isle of Man pound (not Manx pound), because that's the article's name. That's what I meant by official. Of course, I'm just assuming that the articles is correct. I guess you could call it either one, like the new Israeli sheqel or the Israeli new sheqel. – Zntrip 02:53, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Symbols

Do you think it would be a good idea to have a column for the symbol the currency uses? I assume they would need to be images as most of them would not be in most fonts. Zhatt 18:55, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I have actually thought about that, it might make the page to big, but I think it will look nice. They wouldn’t necessarily all have to be images. Their could be a link to the Currency sign page which could have the symbols. So, I think it would be a great idea. – Zntrip 21:45, 23 December 2005 (UTC) PS, Zhatt, your user name is bright; that thing could give someone a seizure. ;)

[edit] Abkhazia, South Osetia

Why are those territories not included in the list? -- tasc ^talk_deeds 10:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Abkhazia and South Ossetia are both include on this page. In Georgia’s entry there is a link to a note at the bottom of the page that says “Russian ruble (р., RUB, kopek, 100) is the only legal tender in Abkhazia additional legal tender in South Ossetia”. – Zntrip 00:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of circulating currencies

I've added Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of circulating currencies. If anyone as added to this page, please provide references used. :) Joe I 11:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other currencies

Should the following currencies be added to this list?

• Bolivian mvdol
• Chilean unidades de formento
• Colombian Unidad de Valor Real
• Special Drawing Rights
• Mexican Unidad de Inversion
• WIR Franc
• WIR Euro
• UIC-Franc
• Gold-Franc
• European Unit of Account 17
• European Unit of Account 9
• European Monetary Unit
• Bond Markets Units European Composite Unit

Also the Guinea-Bissau peso is listed in the ISO's list of currencies. Does anyone know of it is still used? – Zntrip 01:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Guinea Bissau peso CFA franc replaced it in 1997
• Special Drawing Rights not a currency
• Mexican Unidad de Inversion index of funds not a currency
• UIC Franc could be used
• Gold-Franc replaced by Special Drawing Rights in 2003
• European Currency Unit replaced by the euro

No info on wikipedia about others. I'll add UIC franc I think. THNX Zntrip.  :) Joe I 08:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

If I added UIC Franc, I would have to add Liberty Dollar, and Ithaca Hours and such. I would rather just add a see also to Private currency. Joe I 10:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I guess so, but also check unidades de formento. – Zntrip 03:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Currency signs

I don’t know if it is possible, but is there a way to display some of the currency signs on this page? The signs that don’t appear in most Web browsers are the afghani, cedi, rupee, kip, tugrik, naira, guaraní, peso, hryvnia, and the rial. (The symbol for the Iran rial is a actually multiple characters.) If you want to see what they look like see this Adobe file from the Unicode Web site: [1]. – Zntrip 03:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pegs, convertibility, promissory status

Should we add information on:

• whether a currency is freely convertible (at least one African currency is not)
• whether a currency is pegged to another currency, trades in a band, etc.
• who manages a currency (independent central bank vs. direct government involvement)
• whether a currency is fiat money or not (I think all are)
• what the main monetary policy goal is
• recent inflation rate in the area the currency is used
• legal tender status

I'm trying to think of a way to fit that all into the table, but IMHO it's much more important information than what the subdivision is called.

RandomP 11:43, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I think all that should be available on the currencies page. Seems like alot to get into a list that's allready full. Joe I 13:11, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it does seem like a lot, and all of this is on the currencies' individual pages. But legal tender status is listed on this page. – Zntrip 23:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Strongly agree The most important lesson I have learned as a programmer in the recent pass is that copying and pasting always causes trouble later. The same is true for code and stuff on Wikipedia. If something is updated, maintaining consistency would be a big hassle. This is a list, after all. I have no problem listing them separately by current legal status. But the bigger problem is, people have added a lot of defunct currency articles in the pass, notably by Dove1950, and this list gets outdated (not with respect to current event, but with respect to articles on Wikipedia). --Chochopk 01:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swiss Currency Sign

Where does the "S₣" appear and come from? I live in Switzerland and I NEVER EVER saw that sign. Swiss Franc is usually abreviated with "Fr." and (in international context) with it's ISO-Code CHF - "SFr." is no longer used and disappeared completely! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 157.161.88.147 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Double entries

Does anyone know how to make a double entry on the list for a country that has two currencies? For example, under Cuba, there would be two rows next to it with the Cuban peso and the Cuban convertible peso. A little like what’s on List of legislatures by country. – Zntrip 16:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC) --

This code

{|class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#cccccc"
!Country or territory
!Currency
!Currency sign|Sign
!width=50px|ISO code
!width=75px|Fractional monetary unit
!width=50px|Number to basic
|-
|rowspan=2|{{flagcountry|Cuba}}
|Cuban convertible peso
|$
|CUC
|Centavo
|100
|-
|Cuban peso
|$
|CUP
|Centavo???
|100
|}

will give

Country or territory	Currency	Sign	ISO code	Fractional monetary unit	Number to basic
Cuba	Cuban convertible peso	$	CUC	Centavo	100
	Cuban peso	$	CUP	Centavo???	100

We should do the same for Palestine? Countries that uses USD/AUD/NZD but have their own coins? --Chochopk 17:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

What countries are those? – Zntrip 03:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] smallest/largest coin/banknote

I appreciate your effort of bringing information to List of circulating currencies. But I think it is better if we leave the information of smallest/largest coin/banknote to the individual articles. I am a computer programmer, and one of the biggest problems in my work life is that people copy and paste stuff, and later only 1 copy is updated and the other copies become stale and become a bug. The same applies here. In addition, it is sometimes hard to tell which one is the smallest, as the smallest may be in the process of phasing out, and a bigger unit may eventually take the smallest place. The same applies for "very large" note, like 1000 Canadian dollars around year 2000. I hate to remove such important information, but it is for better maintainability. --Chochopk 09:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and besides, there's only so much info that we can put on one page. – Zntrip 15:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liechtenstein frank and Kiribati dollar

Are the Liechtenstein frank and Kiribati dollar still minted? If it is not I would suggest removing it from this page. – Zntrip 16:13, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Last minted Liechtenstein frank was in 1990. Kiribati did mint some coins that do not look like commemorative, in 1979 and 1992. Because they don't look like commemorative, so I think the better question is, are they still in use. I don't know the answer. --Chochopk 23:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

So should they be on the page? They're not made anymore. – Zntrip 03:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Since we're on this subject, we might as well consider it for all instances:

Main	Local	Status	On nav box	Class
USD	British Virgin Islands dollar	Non precious metal coins from 1 cent to $1, 1973-1974 (excluding proof). SCWC: "US coins and currency continue to be the primary medium of exchange". And precious metal commemoratives (-2003).		Niue
USD	East Timor centavo coins	1, 5, 10, 25 and 50 centavos, 2003, 2004, no dollar equivalent.	No	Ecuador
USD	Ecuadorian centavo coins	Ecuadorian sucre: 1 centavo to 50 centavos, identical in size and value to their US counterparts and circulating within the country side by side with coins from the US. No Ecuadorian $1 counterpart. 2000, still used	No	Ecuador
USD	El Salvador	Correct me if I'm wrong, they don't seem to mint centavo equivalence		- - -
USD	Marshall Islands dollar	Non-circulating commemoratives only. $1/2 and up (-1998).		Liechtenstein
USD	Micronesian dollar	No listing in my 2004 catalog, but here's one (-2004)		Niue
USD	Palauan dollar	Non-circulating commemoratives only. $1 and up (-2004).		Niue
USD	Panamanian balboa	1, 5, 10, 25 and 50 centésimo coins like USD counterparts.	Yes	being discussed
USD	Turks and Caicos Islands crown	Crown = $. 1/4, 1/2, and 1 crown coins that don't look like commemorative. And a whole log of commemoratives (-1996).		Liechtenstein
USD	American Samoa dollar	Non-circulating commemoratives only, $1 or up. (-1988)		Liechtenstein
USD	Guam, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands	None? Can't find any in catalog or WorldCoin		- - -
USD	Northern Mariana Islands dollar	Commemorative only. [2] (-2004)		Niue
AUD	Kiribati dollar	1 cent ~ $1 that don't look commemorative (1979-1992). $2 and up do (-2000). I tried searching its usage on the internet, and the internet is absolutely useless	No	Liechtenstein
AUD	Nauruan dollar	Non-circulating commemoratives only. $1 and up (-2002).		Niue
AUD	Tuvaluan dollar	1 cent ~ $1 that don't look commemorative (1976-1994). Some $1 and up do.	No	Faroe
AUD	Christmas Island, Norfolk Island	Can't find any		- - -
AUD	Cocos (Keeling) Islands dollar	5 cent ~ $5 [3]. Commemorative or not, I don't know		Niue
NZD	Cook Islands dollar	1 cent ~ $1 that don't look commemorative (1972-1975, 83). Some $1 and up (-2000). Also banknotes. A lot of details are wriiten in New Zealand dollar	No
NZD	Niuean dollar	Non-circulating commemoratives only. $1 and up. Mostly precious metal (-2002).		Niue
NZD	Tokelauan tala	Non-circulating commemoratives only. $1 and up. Mostly precious metal (-2000).		Liechtenstein
NZD	Pitcairn Islands dollar	Non-circulating commemoratives only. $1 and up (-1997).		Liechtenstein
CHF	Liechtenstein frank	Precious metal commemoratives only. Up to 1990.	No	Liechtenstein
DKK	Faroese króna	Banknotes only. Used widely locally I presume.	Yes	Faroe
ESP	Andorran peseta	Redirect to Spanish peseta.	No
ESP?	Andorran diner	For collectors	No
FRF	Monegasque franc	Centime coins don't look like commemorative. But perhaps FRF circulated more.	On pre-euro box
ITL	Sammarinese lira	No brainer	On pre-euro box
ITL	Vatican lira	No brainer	On pre-euro box

I know this page is about circulating currencies. So the pre-euro ones are just here for comparison. I am suggesting the following:

• If any coin was ever minted or any note was ever printed, make an article. Stub is ok.
• Countries that mint their own subunit coins only, with a different name (let's call this Ecuador class)
  • Have something like East Timor centavo coins. And put it on List of circulating currencies (two-row style with main currency), but what about List of currencies?
  • Put it on navigational box
  • Make it clear that both the main currency and the local subunit coins are circulating in the main currency infobox as well as the country infobox
• Countries/territories that have their own coins/notes and they are circulating (let's call this Faroe class)
  • Same style as Ecuador class
• Countries/territories that have commemorative coins/notes (Liechtenstein class)
  • Infobox and list style as before, but "commemorative only" must be very visible somewhere
  • I'm not sure what to do with nav box. I'm thinking about having a separate sub group called "commemorative only. But this may open a can of worms.

Now what we have to do is to reach a consensus and classify them.

And thank you! For removing the stupid duplicate list in the article Currency. --Chochopk 05:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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From the list you have provided I would add the following with the reasons given:

• Official independent currency:
  • Panamanian balboa, (official currency of Panama with its own ISO code and regulated by the Banco Nacional de Panama)
• Ecuador class:
  • East Timor centavo coins, (recently minted and circulating)
  • Ecuadorian centavo coins (Ecuadorian sucre), (recently minted and circulating)
• Faroe class:
  • Faroese króna, (recently minted and circulating)
  • Tuvaluan dollar, (recently minted and circulating) (if I am correct)
• Commemorative only:
  • Cocos (Keeling) Islands dollar, (recently minted)
  • Cook Islands dollar, (recently minted)
  • Micronesian dollar, (recently minted) – Zntrip 15:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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It seems that our classifications are not so much different. What do you think about the actions that I suggested? --Chochopk 21:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with them compleatly. But for commemorative currencies how would we determine which ones are "circulating" so they could be on this list. – Zntrip 23:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

The rigorous way is to call/email embassies and ask them. I've seen some hardcore timezone fans did that. If real life prevents us from doing that, I guess we have to fall back to internet resources. I guess some tourist websites could be a good place, since they provide practical info (i.e. what's really circulating). Or government website. Also try wikitravel (not a wiki project tho) --Chochopk 00:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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This is what I found in the 2006 Standard Catalog of World Coins (unless otherwise noted):

Commemorative

• American Samoa dollar – Last minted in 1988
• British Virgin Islands dollar – Last minted in 2003
• Cocos (Keeling) Islands dollar – Last minted in 2004
• Kiribati dollar – Last minted in 2000
• Liechtenstein frank – Last minted in 1990
• Marshall Islands dollar – Last minted in 1998
• Micronesian dollar – Last minted in 2004 (according to this link [4])
• Nauruan dollar – Last minted in 2002
• Niuean dollar – Last minted in 2002
• Northern Mariana Islands dollar – Last minted in 2004 (according to this link [5])
• Palauan dollar – Last minted in 2004
• Pitcairn Islands dollar – Last minted in 1997
• Tokelauan dollar – Last minted in 2000 (tala is Tokelauan for dollar)
• Turks and Caicos Islands crown – Last minted in 1996

Official

• East Timor centavo coins – Last minted in 2004
• Ecuadorian centavo coins – Last minted in 2000 (know people that went there and used local coins)
• El Salvador colon – “Note: The Monetary Integration Law of November 2000 resulted in the elimination of the Colon coinage and notes by early 2002. No new coins are expected to be minted.”
• Faroese króna – Officialy used
• Panamanian balboa – Still official in Panama
• Tuvaluan dollar – Officialy used (in CIA World Factbook [6])

The ones that are crossed out I think have been discontinued and shouldn’t be on this page unless evidence of newer issues is found. Also, contacting diplomatic missions is not only a waste of time, but also near impossible. Most of the currencies in question are issued by territories that have no diplomatic missions or Pacific island nations that maybe have five diplomatic missions. (I have written to diplomatic missions in the past and have never gotten an answer.) – Zntrip 23:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Somebody has a different opinion about Panamanian balboa. See Talk:Panamanian balboa. --Chochopk 18:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

It still has an ISO code and is contolled by the National Bank of Panama. At the very least it is used in finance. – Zntrip 22:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I looked on the ISO 4217 page [7] and it says that the El Salvador colon, Guinea-Bissau peso, and the Panamanian balboa are still in use. It also says that in Haiti the United States dollar is used. I guess they should be on this page... – Zntrip 23:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I am suspecting the accuracy of that page, about the part that Guinea-Bissau still uses peso. --Chochopk 02:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I just added the classification of these in the big table, with the additional classfication

	Still minted/printed	discontinued
Comm. only	Niue	Liechtenstein
Regular and/or comm.	Faroese

I have to save my progress now because my internet is very untable. --Chochopk 03:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I updated the table again. Here are some "currencies" that look like and may be circulating. I will use mintage number to verify.

Location	Pop	Nom. GDP	"Typical" 10¢ mintage	Mintage per capita	Mintage per GDP	Conclusion
AUD	20,555,300	707,992	20 ~ 50 M (every year)	0.97 ~ 2.43	28 ~ 71	Of course used
British Virgin Islands dollar	22,016		18 ~ 26 K (5¢, for 2 years)	0.82 ~ 1.18		Not liekly
Cook Islands dollar	17,954		35 ~ 59 K (for 5 years)	1.95 ~ 3.29		Inconclusive
Kiribati dollar	99,350	63	20 K (1 year)	0.2	317	Least likely
New Zealand dollar	4,134,200	108,547	2 ~ 28 M (every year)	0.48 ~ 6.77	18 ~ 258	Of course used
Papua New Guinean kina	5,887,000	3,960	2.5 ~ 15.5 M (20 toea, for 2 years)	0.42 ~ 2.63	631 ~ 3914	Of course used
Samoan tala	185,000	336	1.38 M (20 sene, 1 year)	7.46	4107	Of course used
Solomon Islands dollar	478,000	288	300 K ~ 3 M (20¢, for 2 years)	0.63 ~ 6.28	1042 ~ 10417	Of course used
Tongan pa'anga	102,000	219	140 ~ 712 K	1.37 ~ 6.98	639 ~ 3251	Of course used
Turks and Caicos Islands crown	26,288		50 K ($1, 1 year)	1.9		Not likely
Tuvaluan dollar	10,441	12 (PPP)	26 K (1 year)	2.49	2166	Probably not

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This is what I found (format is place (currency) lattest year of minting, source:

Commemoratives

• Alderney (pound) 2006 [8]
• Asension (pound) 2003 2006 Standard Catalog of World Coins
• British Virgin Islands (dollar) 2006 [9]
• Cocos (Keeling) Islands (dollar) 2005 2006 Standard Catalog of World Coins
• Cook Islands (dollar) 2006 [10]
• Kiribati (dollar) 2005 [11]
• Micronesia (dollar) 2004 [12]
• Nagorno-Karabakh (dram) 2004 2006 Standard Catalog of World Coins
• Nauru (dollar) 2005 [13]
• Niue (dollar) 2005 [14]
• Northern Mariana Islands (dollar) 2004 [15]
• Palau (dollar) 2006 [16]
• South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands (pound) continuous [17]
• Tristan de Cunha (pound) 2005 [18]

Official

• Ecuador centavo coins
• Faroe Islands (króna)
• Salvadoran colón [19]
• Tuvalu (dollar) [20]
• Panama (balboa)

I will add all of the above unless there are any objections. – Zntrip 15:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that's good research. Of course, I wouldn't have any objection. I also think it's as important to create articles for the missing entities, a stub is good enough for now. I just have one question about El Salvador. The central bank says:

On January , 2001 when the Monetary Integration Law went into effect, the United States dollar was authorized as legal tender in El Salvador (Art. 3). The Law established that both currencies, the dollar and colón (Arts. 3 and 5) could circulate as legal tender, establishing at that time the exchange rate of ¢8.75 per Dollar (Art. 1).

--Chochopk 18:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the Salvadoran colón is still legal tender in El Salvador. – Zntrip 23:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kyrgyzstani Som and Uzbekistani som

IMHO, I don't think сом, su’m and сўм are "symbols". They are the full name of the unit. They just happen to be short. And it's so‘m not su’m. --Chochopk 23:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I guess your right, I'll remove them. – Zntrip 03:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Somali shilling and Somaliland shilling

I can't seem to find exactly how the subunits of these two schillings are spelled. The catalog is completely not reliable in this matter. And Somali shilling changed its spelling numerous times in the past. Note that there are separate articles for "cent" and "centesimo". --Chochopk 23:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

The Somali shilling page has both spellings... – Zntrip 03:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tajikistani somoni

I'm not inclined to believe the symbol for this entry; it's currently listed as SM, but surely Tajikistan uses Cyrillic? In which case it seems that см is much more likely.--Ajhoughton 17:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Sound reasonable. But before we have any concrete evidence, let's not jump to conclusion. --Chochopk 23:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Currency signs

This section of the article needs some fixing. I suspect that most of the symbols on here are not in use. For example I doubt that “Af” is used in Afghanistan, but there is a afghani sign in Unicode which is probably used (but has been removed on this list). I also don’t know if you should used things like “A$” or “Z$” because I’m sure that in Australia and Zimbabwe the standard dollar sign is simply used. The same would go with variants of the pound or franc sign. – Zntrip 05:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Ajhoughton, a new wikipedian, has been working on this world wide. --Chochopk 06:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

World wide? – Zntrip 18:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that would be my fault :-) I couldn't identify the Afghani symbol, but I did find reference in various places to the use of "Af". I probably should not have removed it, and should just have added "Af" as well; my apologies.

This does raise one other point, however, which I think is worth discussing here; there are a number of cases (of which "Af", I think is one), where there are currency symbols that might not be used by natives of a particular country, or that would only be used for disambiguation purposes ("A$", "Z$', et al.)

I am of the opinion that all symbols/abbreviations in common use should be listed on Wikipedia, since I think that best serves the community. Some people, for instance Valentinian, who I hope will not mind being singled out here, seem to feel that only the "official" symbols should be included. Valentinian and I were having a discussion about the merits of including NKr, SKr and DKr for the krone/a currencies, for instance.

Perhaps, as has happened in a few cases already, it would be appropriate to point out that a symbol is unofficial, or is only ever used for disambiguation? I certainly don't think it makes sense to remove all unofficial symbols and abbreviations, since some currencies don't actually have an official symbol (yet/at all) despite there being various things in common usage. A particularly good example would be the Russian ruble, as I believe they're choosing an official symbol at the moment.

I will also add that since going through all of the currencies, I found the Unicode Consortium's CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) Project. This is currently used by IBM's ICU library as well as (I believe) Microsoft's .NET frameworks, so it is in use in rather a lot of computer software; it uses both the "Af" symbol and the "NKr", "SKr" and "DKr" symbols that were previously reverted (though if you are in the Afghan locale, you will see Arabic instead, and similarly if you are in the Norwegian locale you would see "kr" rather than "NKr", but still "SKr" and "DKr"). If anyone wanted to contribute to that project, I believe they have mechanisms allowing that. Equally I imagine that the data would be quite a useful resource for this part of Wikipedia.

I will probably bow out of the discussion at this point since I don't really mind what the conclusion is and have rather a lot of other work to get on with. It has been rather a fascinating excursion for me into a field that I don't normally come into contact with, and I hope that you find my changes (and my thoughts here) more useful than not.--Ajhoughton 22:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

BTW, some of the changes Zntrip just made are certainly wrong. For instance, MOP$ is certainly an official abbreviation for the Pataca (it's used on the Macanese governments' own websites), and the Brazilian real is supposed to have a cifrão rather than a dollar sign (at least, according to the Cifrão page). I don't have time to look through in detail to see which other ones I'm certain are wrong, but I think those are not the only ones.--Ajhoughton 22:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe it would be best to only include the symbols used in day-to-day commerce and leave the disambiguational symbols (Ikr, NZ$, C£) for the currencies’ own page.

For example “MOP$”, even if it is on a Macanese government Web site is most defiantly not used in Macao. “MOP$” is simply the ISO code for the pataca with a dollar sign at the end. It is more realistic that in Macao “$” is used.

As for the cifrão, I doubt its use. I have seen advertisements on Brazilian Web sites with “R$”. The cifrão is mostly substituted with a dollar sign because the dollar sign usually appears on keyboards with only one vertical line. – Zntrip 00:13, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure about MOP$? In Macau, the Hong Kong dollar is also an acceptable (and from the looks of things, popular) currency, so they have two currencies that want the same symbol… Just using $ won't work so well. Try Googling for MOP; I think there's plenty of evidence that MOP$ is in common use.--Ajhoughton 01:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Should this be merged with ISO 4217? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wellithy (talk • contribs) 06:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC).

No. – Zntrip 20:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

oppose. Not all "currencies" listed here have ISO 4217 code. Some codes listed on the article of ISO 4217 are obsolete, therefore not on this page. --Chochopk 22:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

There are some redundancy between this and ISO4217. Could we remove deprecate the list of used currencies in one of the pages? (cons) The 2 main inofs not in ISO 4217 (the document and the standard) are the currency symbols and the minor-unit name. (pros) However these tables should be kept-in sync somehow. Any suggestions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wellithy (talk • contribs) 05:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC).

It does not matter if there are redundancies. The ISO 4217 page lists all ISO 4217 codes ever used. This page lists currencies that are used now. There is really no need for a merge. – Zntrip 17:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Apology for the confusion, I meant to merge ISO 4217#Active_codes_.28sorted_by_code.29 with List of circulating currencies as they are/should be essentially the same (at least this is my understanding). ISO 4217 has 3 tables, Table 1 is essentially the valid currencies, Table 3 lists the obsolete currencies (when a currency is deprecated it is moved from Table 1 to Table 3). Wael Ellithy 11:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe removing the table from ISO 4217 and pointing to this page would be a better idea. Wael Ellithy 11:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

As I said before, the lists are too different to be merged. – Zntrip 17:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Population - Usage

I'm looking for some more details. Do we have sources for these:

• Amount of currency in circulation (maybe on some recent date in the past)
• Population who are primary users of the currency
• Number of countries where the currency is used officially. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Natrajdr (talk • contribs) 01:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC).

• There is no way for to know how much currency is circulating.
• This list is by country, so this is here already.
• If the currency is used officially, it is listed here for every country. Also, check the currencies page (i.e. United States dollar) for more information. – Zntrip 17:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Lists by country

The lists by country template has been added to this page, I think it makes the page look awkward since it leaves lots of empty space next to the table with the list. Would anyone object to its removal? – Zntrip 22:09, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, even at the resolution of 1024 × 768 (about 1/2 of the internet users), even with the list by countries, most rows are still single line. I don't think it's a big problem. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chochopk (talk • contribs) 22:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

I understand that, but I just think it's awkward to have lots of empty space under the template and next to the table. Perphaps we should add another template. Isn't there a numismatics one? – Zntrip 23:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

A numismatic template that contains currency lists of different flavor? To my knowledge there isn't one. And the list by countries template wouldn't be a problem if it were horizontal and at the bottom of the page. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 23:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I found one, numismatics, but I can't get it to be under the other one. – Zntrip 01:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

If your looking for a template with purely Numismatic lists, we can easily make one(the thought had occured to me awhile back), although that is what the category should be for. Tho, with templates, we usually make a category of matching info, so it would basically be the same. Joe I 02:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Can some one put the Template:Numismatics on this page under Template:Lists by country? Other wise I think Template:Lists by country just makes the page look wierd and I'll be tempted to remove it. – Zntrip 00:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

IMHO, Template:Lists by country should be made into a horizontal nav box, just like Template:Lists of countries. In a crystal clear language, Lists by country is "list of x sorted by country", whereas Lists of countries is "list of countries by sorted by some criteria". I would like to make both of these like our numismatic navbox. I'm very interested in the development of template space. If I haven't done that in a few days, please remind me. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)