Talk:List of people by name: Johns
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The structure of List of people by name: Jo is not satisfactory, and the use of the automated ToC makes it even more annoying.
IMO, however, the best way to alleviate it is to make Jo into a page containing no names, and only linking to smaller pages that do: that is, to "break up" the page. It doesn't need it from sheer size, but IMO the "stalky" rather than "bushy" tree will be well served by it. I haven't manually built indexes because the task would be easier in smaller files, after the breakup.
My subdivision would be
- Joa - Jog
- Joh
- Joi - Jom
- Jon
- Joo - Jor
- Jos
- Jot - Joz
and IMO the following would be worth hand built indexes:
- Joh (which includes John, Johnson, and Johnston)
- Jon (which includes Jones)
- Jos (which includes Joseph...
I don't consider this nearly as pressing a subdivision as the breakup of List of people by name: J was, but i will eventually take it on.
--Jerzy(t) 07:56, 2004 Mar 17 (UTC)
- Such pages are now standard in the LoPbN tree; i now call them "Index-only pages". Hand-built indexes (in the case descrived above, presumably within-page ones) are however an incredible maintenance burden; the intra-page ones are obviated by use of the automated ToC, while the inter-page ones are made partially self-maintaining with meta-templates, while their creation and modification are eased using some subst'ed templates (already at present) and (via development work begun in the last few months and in evidence on [en.wikipedia.org en:] as of the last week or so) even deeper meta-templates:
- First, conceivably abortive, efforts: Design; progress of the prototype code
- Start of probably long-term approach: templates Ongoing list of components
--Jerzy•t 03:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Michael Johns
I reverted addn of long title from
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- Johns, Michael, (born 1964), business executive and former White House speechwriter to President of the United States George H.W. Bush
If it is intended to indicate his speechwriter job was during GHWB's presidency, say "... to then-President GHWB".
(But if you think the short title doesn't convey enough respect see WP:NPOV.)
--Jerzy(t) 21:19, 2004 May 30 (UTC)
