Talk:Lombard Street (San Francisco)
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[edit] not steepest street!
it should be noted:
a] vermont street between 20th and 22nd is the other street in sf that's like lombard, but never receives any tourists because it's somewhat off the beaten path. b] vermost is steeper than lombard, but i'm pretty sure that there are even steeper streets, e.g. 22nd street betweeen church and dolores, which has no switchbacks but is one-way downhill and has stairs in place of sidewalks. (on the other hand, i may be confusing degrees with slope percent. 22nd street is said to have a 31% slope while lombard is said in this article to have a 27 degree slope, which corresponds to a 51% slope -- tan(27 degrees) = 0.51. but the article writers may have it wrong, and lombard may have a 27% slope, not a 27 degree slope.
update: i think both may be correct. this page: [1] notes that said 22nd street stretch is indeed the steepest street at 31.5% (actually going from church to vicksburg, which is half-way to dolores; evidently the street gets a bit less steep after that), which is in fact tied with filbert between hyde and leavenworth (also 31.5%). after that is jones between union and filbert (29%), the steepest street you can drive up. evidently the lombard curves themselves aren't as steep as the non-curved streets previously mentioned, even if the hill itself is steeper. (and yes, there are hills even steeper, up to and including a sheer vertical cliff face, but they have only stairways on them, e.g. the bottom 100 steps of the filbert steps, which are some 330 or so all told. another interesting case is driving west on army street through noe valley; past sanchez the road turns sharply up, and your car staggers to the intersection with noe, and if you look around, you can see where the road continues -- 30 or 40 feet directly above you! (with a staircase "conveniently" connecting the two parts. too bad you can't throw your car over your back and just haul it up ...))
Benwing 09:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
