Talk:Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center

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Contents 1 Location 2 Expansion 3 List of Contractors 4 Building Numbers

[edit] Location

When NASA-JSC was built ('63), it was NOT in Houston, only Harris county. JSC was in the "Clear Lake Area" which was incorporated by Houston in the mid 70s. The entry is correct to claim that JSC IS indeed in Clear Lake, a part of Houston, which it is. There are plenty of people who work at JSC who are not aware of the history and relationship between Clear Lake and JSC. --Railgun

No one is arguing that JSC is not within the political boundaries of Houston, nor that Clear Lake City is even a city - which it is not. Both are within the political boundaries of Houston. However, Clear Lake City is suburb of Houston (an area of Houston). Given the land area the city of Houston occupies, saying it is "in Houston" gives little indication of its location. JSC is approximately 25 miles from downtown Houston. When JSC opened it was not within the Houston city limits. The Clear Lake community came into existence partly because of JSC. Residents of Clear Lake fought to incorporate themselves as a city and prevent annexation by Houston. That failed.

Saying "The Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center (JSC), located in Clear Lake City, Texas, a suburb of Houston" is a correct statement. Many people in the Houston-Galveston Bay area associate Clear Lake with NASA-JSC. It's a slap in the face to people like me to ignore this strong association. What is the Clear Lake community's annual festival called - "Lunar Rendezvous" - organized by whom - The Clear Lake Area Chamber of Commerce.

Working at JSC hardly makes anyone an authority on the history of Clear Lake and JSC. I work at JSC too. My father started working at JSC in 1963 (when my family moved here) - retiring as a manager in MOD in 1995. I've lived in Clear Lake since 1973 and another local community before that. Most of the people who work at JSC moved here in the late 80s or 90s.

Also, using JSC's addresses is not relevant (see opening paragraph) since we are not saying that JSC is not within the political boundaries of Houston. El Lago's mailing address is Seabrook. Does that mean that the residents of El Lago live in Seabrook?

The additional clause "a suburb of Houston" validates that JSC is in Houston, but the previous part gives us more exact details of not only where in Houston, but to the history of JSC. Railgun 15:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I have to agree. I think this is an issue of reflecting the spirit rather than the letter. Claer Lake and JSC are integrally tied, as I'm sure even our anon would agree. · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 16:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Clear Lake City is a master-planned community, now built-out (with a small portion in incorporated Pasadena). JSC was here before the residential master-planned development of Clear Lake City. Clear Lake City is the name of a residential development which was in Houston's ETJ before annexed. It never was a government or municipal entity. If you would go research or ask the homeowner's association of the master-planned community of Clear Lake City for a boundary map of Clear Lake City, you would see clearly that JSC is not within the development of Clear Lake City, but is adjacent to Clear Lake City. Therefore, JSC is technically not in the boundary of Clear Lake City master-planned community. Colloquially, the whole area is referred to as "Clear Lake area." JSC is in fact in the "Clear Lake area" but is not within Clear Lake City. RJN 00:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

If we must be so nitpicky, how about we add "Clear Lake City area" and call it even? · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 01:09, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion

Compared to the articles for Kennedy Space Center and Jet Propulsion Laboratory, this article is way too short and is missing important information about the missions conducted in JSC. --alexyu 02:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Contractors

I think if there is going to be a list of contractors it should be a separate entry for all of NASA since even small contractors like Barrios Technology serves multiple NASA sites - not just JSC. Railgun 02:29, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Building Numbers

I wasn't aware that Building 5 contained a Space Station training area, only the Shuttle Mission Simulator. It's possible that I hadn't heard of it, but can its existance and location be verified? I was under the impression that all ISS training occured in the mockups in Building 9. Malderi 21:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I asked this 2.5 weeks ago, and since nobody has changed it or verified it, I'm going to remove the reference to it until that happens. Malderi 05:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)