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Contents 1 Request for consensus on two non-controversial changes 2 Major Typo 3 Please restore material on this page 4 In case anyone is wondering why this article is protected

[edit] Request for consensus on two non-controversial changes

I'm not interested in unblocking this page for yet another edit war, but I noticed a couple of annoying errors about LaRouche's life pre-NCLC that should be changed. If we can all agree, I'd like to get permission to change them.

1. The article now reads: "His wife left him in 1963 (they had a son, born in 1956) and, in the late 1960s, Janice Neuberger LaRouche became a leader of the New York City branch of the National Organization for Women." I propose that this be changed to: "He and Janice separated in 1963, with Janice retaining custody of their son, born in 1956." First, Janice didn't leave: she kept the apartment on Central Park West. Second, the addition of the fact that Janice later became an activist with NOW bears the imputation that Lyndon led her to it. This is absurd--she had been a socialist since the 1950s and a close friend of the formidable Myra Tanner Weiss and Myra's equally formidable husband Murray, who were both advocates of feminism as well as socialism. She didn't need any negative experiences with Lyndon to propel her into what was an obviously appropriate vehicle for social protest for a woman of her ideological background in the late 1960s. In my researches in past decades, I interviewed Janice as well as Myra, Murray and other people who knew the LaRouche couple in the 1950s and early 1960s; I never received any impression that Lyndon was abusive to Janice or that their divorce was an unusually messy one. Also, Janice's life after separating from Lyndon is irrelevant to this article.

2. The description of Carol Schnitzer as LaRouche's "common-law wife" in the 1960s should be changed simply to his "partner," which is the term that is almost universally used nowadays. Also, "common-law wife" is an inappropriate term from a legal standpoint, since Lyndon and Carol lived together exclusively in New York State, which does not recognize common law marriages.--Dking 19:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

These are extremely minor points. We can worry about them later. Dking, I would like to repeat the question that has been put to you, let's see, three times without receiving an answer, so here comes number four: can you, or can you not, supply a quote from LaRouche in context to document your claim that LaRouche says he has a plot for "conquering the world," that "centers on eliminating a Jewish banking oligarchy." I think that claim of yours was the pivotal issue in the revert war that caused protection of the article. It will have to be resolved in order to get unprotection. --NathanDW 21:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe this is cited properly to the book by King, published by a major reputable outlet.--Cberlet 03:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Inquiring minds still want to know whether LaRouche ever said anything remotely like it. --Tsunami Butler 06:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major Typo

In the "Alleged Coded Discourse" section, the last two paragraphs (the one about Children of Satan and the following one) repeat. There's also a cutoff sentence at the end of one of them. Someone who has the power to do so, please take a look and fix it.

Fixed. Thank you. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 08:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please restore material on this page

This page is protected due to protracted conflicts over content. It is inappropriate to archive the relevant discussion until the issues have been resolved. Please restore the recent discussion, or provide me with a good reason why I should not do so. --Tsunami Butler 16:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

And given the circumstances, why on earth would you remove the NPOV tag? --Tsunami Butler 16:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

The page was too long; the threads were inactive; and the tag has been there for ages for no obvious reason. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

The reason is obvious -- because there are serious disputes about the neutrality of the article. The discussion is going on at the Mediation Cabal. And is it permissible under Wikipedia policy for you to remove that tag while the article is protected? Particularly when you are a party to the content disputes? --NathanDW 19:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Where is it going on at the mediation cabal? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 20:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't notice it was protected. I've reverted myself. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 20:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In case anyone is wondering why this article is protected

See Talk:Lyndon_LaRouche/medcab06-07 and Talk:Lyndon_LaRouche/archive13. There have been protracted disputes over the content of this article. --Tsunami Butler 14:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I think there should be some kind of explanation of who Ramsey Clark is. I don't think it's inappropriate to quote him, necessarily, but it's a bit misleading to say he's a former US AG and an "activist." That makes him sound like a guy who likes to speak at rallies now and then, when in fact he's very much on the extreme fringes of US politics these days. I'm trying to think of a NPOV of saying that, but honestly it's tough to think of one with someone like Clark. HowardW March 22, 2007