Disputatio:Centum celeberrimae pelliculae
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We seem to have a contretemps here, with the mysterious 69.230.67.169 rejecting the changes that Irenaeus has carefully made in the translations of the titles. Perhaps participants would like to discuss the translations, with an eye toward building consensus. I'll start with a few comments.
3. 69's patrinus isn't in my dictionaries, but Irenaeus's sponsor is good church Latin for 'godfather' (though in the Golden Age it seems to have meant only 'bondsman'); for a classical equivalent, one of my dictionaries suggests pater lustricus.
5. I'm not sure that L. Arabicus is an improvement upon L. Arabiae; after all, Cicero's Pomponius was Atticus 'the Athenian,' not Athenarum 'of Athens' (though he was most assuredly in Athens); still, it may be a close call.
9. For "Schindler's List," 69's index is less persuasive than Irenaeus's ratio, which adds the helpful connotations of 'business, purpose'; however, catalogus would be clearer to most non-Latinists.
11. Both versions here are less than perfect because they miss the idea of "It's." I wonder if Est Vita Mirabilis (placing the est first) wouldn't be better.
21. Irenaeus's 'tendril' (pampinus, singular) isn't close to the original 'grapes' (uvae, plural). I like the idea that wrath has tendrils (pampini)—an ominous & apt image (but of course it misses the literary allusion).
29. For "Mr.," Irenaeus's D. should be better than 69's Sr.; does 69 have evidence in support of Sr.?
46. For Clockwork Orange (unless I'm reading it wrong), Irenaeus has missed the point: it's a mechanical orange, not a mechanical clock (horologium mechanicum) plus a fruit; so 69's Aurantium Mechanicum seems better (if aurantium is truly OK for 'orange').
51. Indiscretiones isn't a translation, but an explanation; maybe that's OK.
62. For "Tootsie," Irenaeus's Femina Ille is cleverer & pithier than Quandum Is Erat Ea, though that too could be OK, if quandum were made right.
Many disputed titles remain (and I have opinions on them!), but perhaps others would like to jump in. IacobusAmor 22:53, 29 Novembris 2006 (UTC)
Gratias ago pro conversionibus disputatis. Qua in re nihil mihi magis placet quam tandem mihi explicatum esse, quidnam illud clockwork orange significaret, quod equidem profecto non intellexi. Minime enim puto nihil aut addi ad mea aut corrigi in meis aut a meis detrahi posse, sed, quibus anonymus ille tantopere delectari videtur, eorum maior pars plane inepta est. Quamobrem vestram, amici, invoco et benevolentiam et iudicium, ut optima quaeque constet conversio. --Irenaeus 23:47, 30 Novembris 2006 (UTC)
