Talk:Mêlée

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Contents 1 Two things 2 I took a stab 3 Melee (with no accents) 4 This isn't real life melee! ... 5 Two sides - Free-for-all

[edit] Two things

First, melee combat is not always "disorganized". Whoever wrote that is biased to some degree. Sometimes orginization can be used to create efficiency.

Two, how do you pronouce it? I've always heard it

May-lay

but the title suggest's it's

Me-lé

Shadow Blade 05:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I always try to use a French pronunciation, something like [mɛleː]. Even for Mêlée Island™, never mind what the Voodoo Lady says.  :-)—Dah31 22:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I've always heard it as "May-lay," and alternatively spelled simply melee without accented marks. And I agree, saying that melee is "disorganized" or "confused" is biased. IronCrow 02:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I took a stab

at editing the first part of this article. While an excellent effort, it appeared that the author was writing it more from a gaming perspective. I left the 2nd half - on mêlée in gaming terms - alone as I have little experience with it.

To my thinking, the key in defining a mêlée is that any kind of plan to fight as a unit has gone out the window and the fighting has degenerated into a mass of single combats. I've attempted to say that a little better in the article. Anyone who can neaten it up is welcome to.

I removed the 'weapons used in a mêlée' as, again, they appeared to refer to gaming terms only as a group of tanks fighting in a mêlée aren't going to be using swords.

Removed Mano-a-mano reference as the phrase means more like 'one on on.' While the direct translation is 'hand to hand', it is a colloquialism in Spanish that is closer to the English phrase 'one-on-one' or 'single combat'. As a mêlée involves a group, it doesn't really apply. --63.89.65.98 13:29, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

I did the edit and the above without being signed in. Ooops --Lepeu1999 13:37, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Melee (with no accents)

The article implies the term w/o accents is used to refer to specific (copyrighted) games and companies. The actual reality is that, like most accented works, "melee" is commonly used in English with no accents at all, and that the use of the term w/ accents is at all usual and certain not unusual enough to distinguish it for specific meanings. While is it right and proper for an encyclopedic entity like Wikipedia to use the proper accented form, it should be noted that that general society is not nearly so observant in the use of accents. Pimlottc 16:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. No one in the incredibly lazy gaming world uses "mêlée attacks" to describe non-ranged attacks in games. --Raijinili 21:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This isn't real life melee! ...

Actually it is, the gaming isn't real life - it's a game. I've made a minor adjustment to the article to reflect that. --Lepeu1999 16:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

This is just about gaming. This needs to have info on melee weapons, when and how melee fights were fought, etc etc. Weapon info on the sword, axe, etc from a real-life perspection need to be added, because right now this is about gaming melee, which is not what I expected for a topic on melee... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.68.139.150 (talk) 21:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Two sides - Free-for-all

I know only about gaming, and this teached me a lot about a real melee, BUT... Dunno if it is only in gaming...

divided into two sides, fighting in a free-for-all

Everytime I see (in games) free-for-all it is translated as 'everyone for himself', meaning there are no teams, each one trying to kill everyone else to survive, having no friends nor enemies... Divided by two sides is obviously teaming... Unless they start up at two sides but not as teams thus making the two groups melee in themselves and then engaging the survivors of the other group or something like that or that it is not free-for-all as I understand (seeking the last man standing)... So I got really confused... Or maybe it's jsut missing an OR... I have no idea... 201.72.158.157 00:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

that quote was from the part of the article dealing with the Melee in a midieval tournament and its use in that context differs slightly from its current use as well as its current 'gaming' use. Midieval tournament melee might have been a free-for-all last man standing wins event or it may have been a team event - it depended on who was organizing the tournament.--Lepeu1999 19:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)