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[edit] R.K.O

What is a R.K.O that is referred to under trivia? It doesn't make anysense and the link goes to an article about wrestling throws but I can't find a R.K.O mentioned? Maybe I'm blind, or maybe I'm just new to wikipedia, but I didn't want to edit the article in case it was just me. Prehaps someone else, with a bit more "wiknowledge", could fix this up.

I removed "Paid a million dollar fine in pennies" from the triva section because on 01-31-2006 said on [Opie and Anthony] that it wasn't true.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Cuban had anything to do with the acquisitions of Nash, Finley, nor Nowitzki. Finley's been there since the '96-'97 season and Nash & Nowitzki both arrived in '98-'99. The article says in it that Cuban purchased the team in 2000.

I dont find this article neutral and is more a boost for cuban's ego!

Why did Nash leave the team or was he fired?

This page has two different dates for the purchase of the team's jet. Please correct. Under Guinness Record reference, the year is one year earlier than the purchase's previous reference in this article

You're right -- Cuban didn't have anything to do with the acqusitions of Nash, Finley and Nowitzki. I just edited that out. I agree, too, that the tone is not objective. It should also be fixed.

[edit] Rivalry

I think it would be cool to include his bitter rival with Donald Trump. I watched ESPN 2's "Quite Frankly with Stephen A. Smith", that had Cuban as a guest, and it was fun to learn of the rival between the 2 men. Cuban said of Trump, "Once and idiot, always an idiot," after showing a clip of "Quite Frankly" when Stephen A. had Trump as a guest. I can't remember everything that was said, but both men were taking verbal shots at each other.

Also, his feud with Phil Jackson?

[edit] The origin of Mark's surname (Cuban)

To the layman, it would seem that his surname is an Americanized version of the Island country Cuba. Is Mark Cuban of Cuban heritage? - unsigned

A blog [1] contains the following quote from an un-cited article "The Maverick" in the Austin American-Statesman: "In high school, he was a “better than average” student who would hole up in the library. “I was the heavy kid who wore glasses,” says Cuban, whose Russian grandparents changed the family name from Chopininski when they came to America." He wasn't jewish, and has stated that. I think his name should remain the same. Mark Cuban is what he wants to be called. - unsigned

[edit] Nash

Nash was a free agent. Nash left the Mavs because Cuban was looking for a sign and trade with him and Shaq.

No, Nash left because the Mavericks didn't offer him enough money.

The second is more correct. The Mavericks couldn't really offer Nash enough money, because it would push them over the cap, which would cost a lot more. According to Cuban, the Mavericks never got an offer for Shaq. Figharrrburt 02:59, 28 May 2006

[edit] Speaking appearances

I erased this section because it seemed fairly irellevant. It seems like the highschool just wanted to get their name on Cuban's page. He does a fair amount of speaking, and this instance wasn't anything special. 24.193.107.183 20:34, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Outside perspective

Figharrrburt removed a comment concerning how Mark Cuban is perceived by fans of other teams with the snide comment "sorry, this isn't a Spurs forum." Mr. Fingharbutt, it's not a Mavs forum, either, and Cuban is incredibly annoying to many people outside of Dallas. There are comments in this discussion stating that the tone of the article is not objective ... and your deletion continues that trend. The sentences removed could be written better, but if you are going to call him "the fan's dream (come true)," you need to balance this with how non-Mavs fans perceive him.

[edit] Adam Kopp

Is this relevant? I'm probably a "distant relative" of half of the people in the United States... HMishkoff 12:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My edits

Sorry for not being completely up to speed on wiki etiquette. I made some factual changes on dates, places and things. The items I removed regarding the mavs, free agents, etc, were put back in. That's fine. No big deal. The Gary Weiss stuff. Again, no big deal. But it has been fun to learn more about meat/sock puppets, wars, etc. The education about wikiality has made the process worth it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mcuban (talkcontribs).

[edit] Random info

Mark Cuban talked about this wikipedia entry and his edits to it in his blog here: [2]. Remember 13:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks like he's come back today.--Wikihomeboy 16:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to contact

I am an entrepreneur and am wondering how one would get their summaries to you to critique? Jeff. Jeff

[edit] Treats the parties "pragmatically"?

I think that's the wrong word for this context. "he treats relationships with major political parties pragmatically, but chooses not to become directly involved with them." First, "pragmatism" is a fairly technical epistemological term, and although its widely used sloppily there's no good excuse for doing so here. Coming so soon after the discussion of Cuban's Objectivist readings, it sounds as if we're saying, "He tempered his readings of Rand with later readings of Charles Peirce," which probably isn't so, or isn't the point. Second, I think that what is meant here is that Cuban deals with the political parties as necessary to protect his business interests. If that is so, let's say that. --Christofurio 14:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Using his own blog as "reference material"?

I am not sure if this falls under the self-promotion rules, and especially since his blog does not allow dissenting opinions, is not likely to be an objective source of information. Please see WP:AUTO , specifically the section which states: "If the only source for a particular fact about you is you yourself, then readers cannot verify it. (One common area where this is the case is with hopes, dreams, thoughts, and aspirations. There is no way for readers to verify what you think.) However true something may be, if readers cannot verify it, it does not belong here. Everything in Wikipedia articles must be verifiable."

I have no problem with an external link to it, just with it being used as a citation for a fact that otherwise cannot be verified. For example, the radio show getting dropped is according to him due to other owners not knowing his value to the league? NPOV of the other owners, based solely on his own blog comments does not prove that this was the reason the show was dropped.

If his blog is going to be a source of material, then it should also be a source of criticism. opposing viewpoints in the comments of his blog, (those that have survived deletion) should then be an equally valid reference source. However, that is I am sure a slippery slope that nobody wants to go down, so it might be better to just remove the use of his blog as reference material when asserting a controvertial point. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CodeCarpenter (talkcontribs) 15:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

UPDATE: Comments in his blog end up getting used by other sources, (see this week's controversy), so I guess using his blog is valid for reference unless there is some Wikipedia rule against it. CodeCarpenter 19:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This guy distributing Loose Change 3?

Hi.

Anyone else been reading up on rumors about this guy maybe distributing Loose Change 3? http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_fox_news_threatens_sheen_cuban_not_to_make_film.htm

Later, Torb255

[edit] Buying the Cubs?

I was tempted to revert the comment that the ubs were for sale, but did some research first, and found this article. [3] As much as I personally dislike his antics in Dallas, I think he would be a great NL owner, someone with the pockets to compete with the Yankees and Red Sox in the spending department. CodeCarpenter 21:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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