Talk:Mark Martin (NASCAR)
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[edit] Links
Question: Should we make the links section "official" links only, or should we put any unofficials ones in there? -- DiegoTehMexican 14:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanup
To put it nicely, this article is a mess. It needs more information on Mark's pre-Roush years and his Busch Series career. The Car #6 History section in the Roush Racing article should possibly be moved here, since that is a Martin-exclusive section (until Todd Kluever takes over next season. The Matt Kenseth and Jeff Gordon pages are very good models, IMHO. -DiegoTehMexican 19:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Citation needed
There's noted that citation is needed for a statement about Mark Martin's love for rap music (which is well known fact and it amazes me, how you need citations for that). How about http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=goldstandard&prov=tsn&type=lgns ? To be exact, at the end of the article - This is . . . Mark Martin
Musical taste: Runs the length of the FM dial.
Who he's listening to right now: Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, Eminem.
I'm quite sure these three qualify as rap. Sincerely, Carnifex, 88.222.177.11 09:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Top 10's vs. Wins
When a driver wins, do you increment wins and the top 10 count, or just the wins? I added Martin's recent Banquet 400 win and updated his win count, but not his top 10 count.
- Yes, a win also increments the top 10 count. -DiegoTehMexican 19:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Infobox
Whew. I updated Mark's infobox with the new cross-series driver template. Here's hoping that he doesn't go and race in ARCA next, or we're going to have to add even more, and this thing's already massive. -- DiegoTehMexican 03:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Speaking of the infobox, is it still appropriate to have his (then Roush Racing) car picture there, when he no longer drives for Roush Fenway in the Cup Series? AEMoreira042281 03:49, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 2007 Daytona 500 controversy
"...However, many have questioned NASCAR's decision to delay a last-lap caution, contending that it had cost Martin the victory..."
Why was this deleted?
The 2007 Daytona 500 had the closest--and most controversial (in terms of who really won it)--finish since the 1959 race. This should be mentioned in the article in some way, given its historical relevance.
- We need verifiable citations. I'm still looking for one. Note that in every picture I've seen, Harvick was leading when the caution came out – Mark probably would have lost either way, unfortunately. — BrotherFlounder 04:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The deleted statement acknowledges, in essence, that the finish was controversial. It does not assert that Martin really won; it simply addresses the uncertainty surrounding NASCAR's decision to delay the caution. The fact that the controversy exists--its shelf life extended in the media for more than a week after the event--doesn't need a verifiable citation.
AP motorsports writer Jenna Fryer, about NASCAR's decision: "...Arguing that it was OK because it was the last lap isn't right, either. In 2005, NASCAR froze the field on the final lap at Talladega Superspeedway because of a spinning car way behind the leaders. Tony Stewart crossed the finish line first, but Dale Jarrett got the win because he was ahead when the field was frozen..."
If this rule was applied consistently, there may have been a different Daytona 500 winner. And therein lies the controversy.
Plus, it's yet another near-miss for Martin...a recurring theme throughout his career (i.e., four-time championship runner-up).
Also--a correction to my earlier comment--this may have actually been closer than the 1959 race. Although it took several days to declare the 1959 winner (by looking at photos), the 2007 Daytona 500 was the closest since electronic scoring began.4.247.170.124 01:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)Deej
[edit] pessimist?
Mark Martin is listed as a pessimist on the pessimist page. Is this accurate? It seems like he's had a pretty succesful career. I don't know much about NASCAR but I figured I'd leave a note here because this seemed a bit odd. Eleigh33 04:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- From Auto Racing Digest, June-July 2003:
- "...Perhaps past frustrations have hardened Martin, caused him to form a protective barrier around himself--or at least his championship aspirations. It's almost as though he doesn't dare to hope. 'When it comes to competition and getting your heart broken, I'm an eternal pessimist,' confesses Martin..."
- (See the last few paragraphs in the section above for context.)66.19.76.134 23:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Deej
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- Thanks for the response! ---eLeigh33 23:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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