User talk:Mattinbgn/Sandbox - Notability Australian football leagues and clubs
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[edit] Regional leagues
Are the regional football leagues really semi-professional? I believe the regional leagues deserve articles, but I don't think they are semi-professional. I'd aim to try to merge the team articles to either the town they represent or the league. --Scott Davis Talk 11:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- It is a debatable point. While some players, even most in leagues such as the Ovens and Murray Football League and Goulburn Valley Football League are paid, meaning that they cannot be classed as amateur, they are certainly not professional in the sense that football is their profession. Although I have created a bundle of regional club articles, see Berrigan Football Club, I would have no objection to merging them into a league or town article where appropriate. It would possibly improve the league articles and get them to at least a Start or B class rather than the overblown stub (large size, limited content) that they are at now. I will reword to that effect--Mattinbgn/ talk 02:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- OK - I'm uncertain about the club articles. There is nothing in Berrigan Football Club that I think does not belong in Wikipedia, and if the same level of detail were provided for each of the other five sports listed in Berrigan, New South Wales it would be ready to split into a new Sport in Berrigan article, which is just ridiculous. Merging most of the info from the clubs into the league article might work, as much of it can be presented in lists or tables in a more compact manner. The league article presently has the list of clubs in 1) the infobox, 2) the text and 3) a navbox template at the bottom. This could be adapted to a table of critical info and a section for the detail of each club. I suggest changing the title "Semi professional leagues and clubs" to "Semi professional and regional leagues and clubs". --Scott Davis Talk 01:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Some thoughts
I think that the clubs and players should be addressed seperately. The criteria should also address the historical era's as people are notable solely for playing yet they werent professional players. I also think the criteria should be clearly segmented, narrow in definition so that each can be specifically referred to, with examples clearly stated. Gnangarra 05:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Some more thoughts
In particular, could this mention umpires, coaches, and other involved people (club presidents or the AFL CEO for instance). Other football-related things to consider are past (pre-internet) players (who may not have much to cite on Google, but there's a lot of offline content about past players), pages about individual football seasons, and pages about football venues. If it's a notability draft for Aussie-rules topics, then it should probably cover as much as possible. Cheers. --Michael Billington (talk) 11:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
