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[edit] Early comments
Cheers, removed the NPOV.
Nsoltani 14:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Edited Swedish section, i am in my final year of medical school in Sweden and i believe the information to be correct now.
--Gabbonator 19:17, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Added a POV check in the Swedish section because it seems biased to call any form of education "easy". "Easy" is relative to the person, not the teachings. Would like if someone with more information to correct this issue.
Nsoltani 14:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I added the NPOV check in the U.S. section because there seems to be language biased toward a D.O., with no mention that an M.D. is more common, more widely recognized, etc., but I don't know enough about the issue to correct it. Tuckerma 21:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I have just tried to expand upon the previous entry, in an effort to begin to internationalise the information. It obviously needs more work.
I agree with Diberri that the list of "famous" [US] medical schools seems somewhat unneccessary.
--Daveb 11:15, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Is there any convincing reason to maintain a list of so-called "famous" medical schools on this page? Seems to me that such a listing might be a bit biased. --Diberri 11:05, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I've expanded quite a lot on the UK section, and could realistically go quite a lot further. Might it be worth pulling the UK out into its own page? --James Bedford 01:29, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
- I agree that it is too bulky for this overview and that it deserves its own page.
- The medical student life is beyond the scope of this topic so probably should go into the UK-specific article; it probably needs a bit of cleaning up and "decoloquialising" to be in keeping with the encyclopaedic nature.
- Much of the PBL/traditional GEMP/UEMP info is common to other countries, e.g. Australia has been increasingly using 4 year GEMPs for over a decade (interestingly, a number of UK medical schools license Australian curricula).
- Good work, --Daveb 02:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks Daveb, seems my first contribution to wikipedia was ok...
- Have moved the page to UK Medical School, but would appreciate some advice on tidying up - I'm not happy about just leaving "See the UK Medical School pages for more...", seems a bit user-unfriendly.
- Also, might separate pages for PBL etc. (i.e. those topics that are transferable across countries) be a good idea, or could that be fragmenting things too much?
- Cheers, --James Bedford 01:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Hi James,
- Thanks for doing that. I have reformatted the redirect, and will probably rename the new article to fit with usual conventions, bit I think a new article is warranted.
- You could probably leave a really brief summary in this article, eg covering the fact that there are different models used.
- Thanks again, --Daveb 06:53, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Jfdwolff, I fail to see why you reverted the edit by 202.83.48.61. Could you pleas explain your action. --Admiral Roo 16:31, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Restructure
This page is becoming quite long as various examples from around the world are added. In addition, some are beginning to touch on postgraduate training/education, which varies great around the world, perhaps moreso than basic training. As such I recommend spinning off daughter articles for the different medical education systems listed. These could combine both basic and postgraduate training, and as such could be named "Medical education in <location>". Cheers, --Daveb 06:17, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
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- What about the Medical College (India) I had already created Doctor Bruno 19:35, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Good idea to have a spin-off article to lessen the burden on this article. Are the medical colleges wholly responsible for medical training in India, or are other organisations involved? (I am not familiar with the system there). If other are involved you could create an overview "Medical education in India" article, which refers to the Medical College (India) article where appropriate. Cheers, --Daveb 00:11, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
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- The only institutions imparting Medical Education in India is a Medical College. Both the undergraduate as well as post graduate education is imparted over there. The college is attached to a hospital Doctor Bruno 20:16, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] United States
CMS - 10/22/2006
"Medical education in the United States requires a college degree and is typically 4 years in length."
This bit of information under the United States heading isn't accurate. Medical school matriculation in the U.S. does not require a college degree although it is typically recommended. I know of at least 3 students in MY class alone who did not have any type of college degree and were accepted into medical school. While the vast majority of incoming medical students have 4 year degrees, it isn't a requirement. I believe the requirement is about 90 hours of coursework, which must include the required courses for medical school entry.
I removed some information from the china medical school section. Somebody had put a link to a medical school and I thought that was inappropriate. It would be helpful if a chinese would add some info to that section. Yukon guy 11:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Republic of Macedonia
Removed the description of Republic of Macedonia medical education system as it was completly copied from the German one, with Macedonia inserted insted of Germany. Planing to write a description in the near future for the former Yugoslavia as the system is basically the same in all the former Yugoslavia republics.
[edit] Please don't blank sections
I have added expansion notices to all the sections that have been deleted. Whenever a breakout article is created a summary should be left behind, or the problem of balance is made worse rather than better. ReeseM 00:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Photograph
With no offence intended to its staff or students, I don't believe the photo of the Faculty of Medical Sciences of the State University of Campinas adds anything to the article, which doesn't even contain a section on Brazil. The article is not about med school architecture, and the image can't be included as being representative of all medical schools, which all look different. I have removed it for now. James Bedford 22:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Doctor of Osteopathy
In the fourth paragraph the following appears:
Although a medical school may confer upon a graduate the title of Doctor of Medicine or Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine, a Doctor of Medicine/Osteopathy (M.D./D.O., respectively) typically may not legally practice...
I've read the osteopathy page, and it appears that the only country where medical schools confer the title "Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine" is the USA. Additionally M.D. is fairly specific to the USA as far as degree letters go - in the UK M.D. is a postgraduate degree taken after a medical degree, and many countries use some variant of MBChB/MBBS/BMBCh etc.
I suggest it's inappropriate to mention this here - perhaps it should be given prominence in the USA section. I suggest changing the text back to:
Although a medical school may confer upon a graduate the title of Doctor of Medicine, a doctor typically may not legally practice...
James Bedford 15:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Health science center
Do institutions called "health science centers" (e.g. University of North Texas Health Science Center} qualify as "medical schools"? If not, I'd like the distinction made in the article.-Wikiphilia 19:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
