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Isn't having a Miami Dolphins logo on this page a copyright violation without having permission of the National Football League and the Miami Dolphins organization??

I think we have an example of fair use. Wiki isn't making any money off of it and it's there for educational purposes. Kirjtc2 16:19, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Megaparagraph! 2 Dolphin's Dolphin? 3 Improvement drive 4 Owner information 5 Failed Good Article Status 6 Davie, FL 7 wins 8 Csonka and Morris Rushing 9 Garo Yepremian 10 Dolphins Song 11 Infobox 12 Franchise History Edit 13 Helmet 14 Brock Rademann QB 15 Nick Saban 16 References? 17 Hacked Website 18 Location? 19 Wikiality 20 The Fish? Nickname... 21 Team Colors 22 Playoff Appearances

[edit] Megaparagraph!

Ok, not quite a single paragraph, but geewilikers that's a lot of stuff under one heading. A great example of splitting up the information is found in the Cincinnati Bengals one, FYI. Although this particular message might just be me tooting my own horn.

--Duemellon 22:23, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Dolphin's Dolphin?

Did the team ever keep a dolphin in a tank at the stadium?

They did in the movie Ace Ventura: Pet Detective, but I don't know if they have ever done so in real life. Is there anyone who might know? -- 68.12.101.60 17:35, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I know they did, but I don't know much else. Kushboy 05:56, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

See the NFL Films DVD set, Inside the Vault. Disc Two, on the old AFL, shows the Dolphin in the tank at the stadium. It also shows rare footage of Bob Griese throwing a touchdown pass to running back Stan Mitchell (remember Stan Mitchell?).--65tosspowertrap 01:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC) See also the book by Dave Hyde, Still Perfect! The Untold Story of the 1972 Miami Dolphins,p.36, which mentions how Joe Robbie "fired" Flipper.--65tosspowertrap 11:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Improvement drive

National Football League is currently a candidate on WP:IDRIVE. Vote for it if you are interested!--Fenice 20:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC) Yes in the early 70s there was a dolphin in the stadium in a small tank ... he was relocated for obvious reasons

[edit] Owner information

It would be nice if someone added information about the various owners the team has had. Funkyj 05:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

There have been only been two owners, I think. Founder Joe Robbie and current owner Wayne Huizinga, who bought the team after Robbie's death.

Technically, from Joe Robbie's death in January of 1990 until Elizabeth Robbie's death on November 5, 1991, she was also a majority owner of the team. Wayne Huizenga, who had bought a 15% interest in the team and the new stadium, had first dibs (is that a legal term?) on purchasing the team from the children heirs when their burden of estate taxes (47 million on 200 million in assets) came due. So, you could list not only Elizabeth Robbie, but also the children as owners at different points prior to Huizenga's purchase. CodeCarpenter 22:34, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I did add in some reference to the owners. Although the fact that the heirs were "techincally" owners for some time, that might be interesting as a trivia fact. But as far as the meaning of the word understood in sports, they really wouldn't qualify. If you examined all the various sports teams contracts there would probably all kinds of interesting persons who were "techincally" owners for a short time. This maybe worthwile as a triva fact on some page somewhere. Also the legal term for first dibs is the right of first offer. Butnotthehippo 00:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Failed Good Article Status

This article is insufficiently referenced and there are too many tables (that falls under "well-written"). joturner 04:04, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Davie, FL

The Dolphins are based in Davie, FL. Anyone think we should mention that? Kushboy 19:20, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. Butnotthehippo 00:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] wins

I have added the Dolphins total wins and I got 362 three times instead of the 382 that's listed.74.32.80.33 22:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• The disclaimer on the table says "(including AFL & NFL playoffs)". Did you include all of the playoff wins in your calculations, or did you just add up the numbers in the wins column? Zzyzx11 (Talk) 23:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Csonka and Morris Rushing

Mercury Morris rushed for exactly 1,000 yards in 1972, so technically it is not correct to say that both Csonka and Morris rushed for over 1,000 yards that year.--65tosspowertrap 01:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

If you include preseason and playoffs, I am sure he got a nother yard in 1972. :) CodeCarpenter 22:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Garo Yepremian

Not one mention of Garo Yepremian, who won many games for the Dolphins in the 1970's!--65tosspowertrap 02:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dolphins Song

I am new to wiki and learning. However, this article makes no mention of the Dolphins song/anthem. Can someoen do some research as to how official the song is? Or at least the lyrics?

Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins
Miami Dolphins Number One

The lyrics are:

(Verse) Miami has the Dolphins, The greatest football team! We take the ball from goal to goal, Like no one's ever seen! We're in the air, We're on the ground, We're always in control. So when you say Miami, You're talking Super Bowl!

(Chorus 1) Cause we're the Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins Number 1.

(Chorus 2) Yes we're the Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins Number 1.

(Repeat)

As far as how official it is, the Dolphins play it on the PA when they score a touchdown and score a field goal. Probably on a safety too but I can't recall. --BHC 22:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The official dolphins website has it as the "Fight Song" http://www.miamidolphins.com/history/dolphinsfightsong/dolphinsfightsong.asp

[edit] Infobox

Looking at this page, I'm just wondering how long the NFL infoboxes need to be. I think they should look more like the soccer/rugby ones, with just the basics. For example, having every former name of thet stadium in the box is kind of silly isnt it? Narrasawa 11:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Franchise History Edit

Franchise history section had mentioned that 5 members of the 1970's teams were HOF members. From the list of Dolphin HOF members, later in the article:

42 Paul Warfield, WR, 1970-74, elected 1983
39 Larry Csonka, RB, 1968-74 & 1979, elected 1987
62 Jim Langer, C, 1970-79, elected 1987
12 Bob Griese, QB, 1968-80, elected 1990
66 Larry Little, G, 1969-80, elected 1993
85 Nick Buoniconti, LB, 1969-76, elected 2001

I edited the number from five to six.

[edit] Helmet

The article states that "the logo consists of a dolphin wearing a helmet with the sun shining behind it." WHOSE helmet is the dolphin wearing? It's not the Miami Dolphins helmet -- it has an "M" on it, and the Miami Dolphins helmet has a logo of a dolphin on it. WHY is the dolphin wearing some other team's helmet (or a fictitious one)? Cjkporter 19:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brock Rademann QB

No records show such a person existed. I believe this is vandalism. With no confirmation, I am removing the reference. If it is added once again, supporting information must be posted on the talk page. --Mcmachete 23:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nick Saban

I was reading an issue of Dolphins Digest and it was written that one of the reasons why Saban left was the Culpepper vs Brees issue. The team docters okayed Culpepper and turned down Brees. Yet, I keep thinking didn't Saban have the last word on player transactions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raul17 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] References?

This page has some really POV language and practically no references. Also, I think some of the information on this palkpage is useful and should be integrated. Butnotthehippo 22:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Further, the history section really needs a cleanup and rewrite. I cannot believe there was no mention of the Orange Bowl anywhere in this!Butnotthehippo 23:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hacked Website

After hearing something along the lines of the Dolphins team and/or stadium website being hacked into, I was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to, for the time being, take the link off the article until it's fixed. Thoughts? --Rovership27 03:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Stadium names fixed. --Bmajer 21:34, 11 February 2007

[edit] Location?

An anonymous IP is changing Miami Gardens to Davie for the team location. Rather than get into an edit war, I leave it to the public to decide. Should the Dolphins be known by the place they play, or the place they practice. For comparison, here are some other teams that practice in a different city than they play in. None of these list their practice field as their home. The anonymous IP might consider changing all of these as well.
Valley Ranch, TX Dallas Cowboys Practice Field
Arapahoe, CO Denver Broncos Practice Field
Hempstead, NY Jets and NY Giants Practice Field
Alameda, CA Oakland Raiders Practice Field
I can understand the love for Davie (at least back in the day when it was still horse country rather than townhome central), but a standard is a standard until you change the standard. I will leave it Davie, but suggest that one of the regulars make a choice and that the anonymous IP accept the decision. CodeCarpenter 18:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the anonymous IP, I thought I was logged in at the time. Neither the Jets or Giants play in New York, so location can be subjective. The Giants are based at Giant Stadium. The Jets are in Hempstead. If you call 411, and ask for the Miami Dolphins, you will ring a phone in Davie. Send a letter to the Miami Dolphins, with no other address and it will go to Davie. I think it should remain Davie, but will respect the opinon of others. I also object to the "Miami Gardens" page claiming to be the Home of the Miami Dolphins. Notfound 22:07, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the Miami Hurricanes page, gave me an idea for a further compromise. The Hurricanes are based in Coral Gables, but play their games in the Orange Bowl. The second and third sentences could be removed and moved to the spot where "City" is, since City is too general. "They play their home games in the Miami suburb of Miami Gardens at Dolphin Stadium. They are headquarted(sic) at the Miami Dolphins Training Facility in Davie, Florida."

Headquarters Miami Dolphins Training Facility Davie, FL
Home Stadium Dolphin Stadium Miami Gardens, FL
This could be carried over to the other multi-location teams with little difficulty. IMO, of course. CodeCarpenter 22:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I beleive that the "City" tag is too vauge. I found this to be true at other NFL team sites as well. Could CodeCarpender's idea be incorperated into the "template" for all the nfl sites? Would there be any value in adding the mailing addresses? Notfound 12:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiality

The article says:

The Miami Dolphins recently held a radio contest in which the winner got to father a child to one of the Miami Dolphins cheerleaders. The winner was Justin Kryak, a 16 year old from Georgia. They have decided to name the child "Galactoid" in rememberance of our extra-terrestrial ancestors.

is this an example of Stephen Colbert's wikiality? Funkyj 18:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

nah, just a 16 year old boy's fantasy. I had already removed it. At least he aim's high.... CodeCarpenter 18:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Fish? Nickname...

I do not recall the fans of the Dolphins calling them the Fish. I believe, starting with the regular season at New England game in 1986 (when they first started saying "Squish the Fish") that the Fish is a derogatory term for the Dolphins. I would not expect to see the Aints, Dolts, Brownies, Kittens, Cowgirls, Gnats, Patsies, Traitors, Foreskins, Viqueens, etc. on their page, so I figure the Fish should be removed unless you folks recall using the Fish in a positive way. CodeCarpenter 18:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Team Colors

According the a paper copy of the media guide, (ie, no link available), the official colors are now Aqua, Coral, White, and Navy. The namvy was added as an accent around the ouside of the numbers. Some folks have been fiddling with the colors, but those four, in that order, should be the correct colors. However, with no link, I will not make the change. CodeCarpenter 20:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Playoff Appearances

I figure that a line under the list of AFC East Champion years should be a list of Wild Card years, in order to show the other years the Dolphins were in the playoffs. CodeCarpenter 20:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)