Talk:Miguel Indurain

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This man is great.--24.83.238.209 04:55, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

1 Did he ever test positive for Salbutamol?
2 No accent
3 Ángel
4 Miguelón?
5 Is his nickname not "Flaxplutzine"?
6 VO2 max

[edit] Did he ever test positive for Salbutamol?

i deleted the following line from the article: "In 1994, he was once tested positive with Salbutamol." because i would consider this a major claim and it came from an ip address only. (not a registered user) if someone else can confirm this, we can put it back into the article.uri budnik 15:05, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

I believe he actually did, but I think he had a doctor's note for it (pre-dated though?) Evito 07:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the nomination wasMoved -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 04:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No accent

His name is Miguel Indurain and not Miguel Induráin. I'm to lazy to make the move myself. Švitrigaila 12:00, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

This is not so clear to me. Actually, according to the rules of accents in Spanish (see the current rules by the Spanish Real Academia), "Induráin" should be spelt with an accent. This may not have always been the case because I remember older rules used to have exceptions for names of Catalan or Basque origin with unusual endings (like, say, "Milans" or "Bernabeu"). I don't know if names like "Induráin" or "Beguiristáin" were ever exempted from being accented by the Real Academia rules, but certainly the current rules no longer contemplate any exceptions. "Induráin" is stressed in the last syllable, which is "rain" (because of the diphthong), and it ends with an "n", so an accent on top of the "a" is required. There is, however, a valid rationale for spelling it without an accent, which is the fact that this surname is of Basque origin, and if we follow the spelling rules of Basque, then it should have no accent. This is a tricky question, but I would say that we should treat his surname as Spanish since his official name, and the one he apparently uses himself, is "Miguel" in Spanish, rather than "Mikel" (some Basque newspapers used to refer to him as "Mikel Indurain", using his Basque name, though). But unless anyone can prove that he prefers to be called by his Basque name, I think this article should be kept as "Miguel Induráin". For those who are interested, this interesting article in Spanish discusses the treatment of Catalan, Basque and Galician names in the Spanish media, and mentions the Induráin/Indurain controversy. --AngelRiesgo 22:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Yesterday I brought up this issue at the Spanish Wikipedia's Village Pump, after realising that the article there uses the spelling without an accent. In the discussion that followed, it was pointed out that his name is spelt as "Miguel Indurain Larraya" in his personal website. That seems to prove that he prefers to spell it like that, so I have to change my position on this. If he spells it "Indurain", then we should respect that. --AngelRiesgo 10:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Ángel

His personal website does not have the Ángel name. Are you sure? --Error 02:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miguelón?

Someone replaced "Big Mig" with "Miguelón" - I'm not familiar with the latter nickname... GregorB 21:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

It was used in Spain. It was so popular that a cranium found in Atapuerca around that time was nicknamed Miguelón. --Error 01:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is his nickname not "Flaxplutzine"?

End of the first paragraph: "...which earned him the nickname 'Miguelón'". This is a meaningless sentence. "Miguelón" has no meaning in English, so there is no connection between this group of letters and the discussion of his size. ...or do Basque/Spanish cyclists get more letters according to their height? And it is significant that this horse of a man has earned an eight letter name? Give me a hint. It is Spanish or Basque? (Looks Spanish). I give up, please clarify. Gronky 12:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

It's Spanish. The "ón" attached to "Miguel" is an augmentative suffix that has colloquial and affectionate connotations. Roughly translated it would be "Big Miguel" in english. Gnipahellir 10:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VO2 max

This page claims it is 88

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VO2_max#VO2_max_Levels claims it is 96 for Miguel Indurain

I hope someone who is interested but more knowledgable than me, can reconcile this.

Cheers!

Phil

It's 88. I think VO2max gets it wrong, I've never seen the 96 figure for Indurain. Will mark it with {{fact}}. GregorB 23:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Did he ever test positive for Salbutamol?

[edit] No accent

[edit] Ángel

[edit] Miguelón?

[edit] Is his nickname not "Flaxplutzine"?

[edit] VO2 max

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