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[edit] Article Organization

Even if all the categories in this article were filled out, this article has poor organization. If each of those categories were properly finished this article would run over 100k. I think many of these categories need to be condensed into more general categories. For example: Ancient World, Middle Ages, Renaissance (nominally, Hapsburg dynasty), War in the 18th and 19th century, Modern age. That gives full coverage, and specific wars can be wikilinked. Otherwise, this article will remain ugly. What do you think? Furthermore, I think this will have to be a collaboration of the Task Force - members can fill in and reference areas they are well versed in. I could complete the modern history of Spain, as well as the ancient history, for example. JonCatalan 00:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

You make a good point, although I doubt that an article of this scope, properly completed, could or should be less than 60k (the subject might be one warranting sub articles in the future). Beyond that, if we want to avoid the article becoming a summary box for "Reconquista," "Spanish-American War," "Spanish Civil War," etc., our structure should aim to be analytical rather than narrative, with emphasis pinned on Spain's unique innovations in the field of military science as well as the social and political developments associated with Spain's conduct of war. Autrement dit, the substance of the article must be more than a rehash of the various conflicts explained elsewhere. The article should describe, for instance, the capabilities and organization of Spain's various historical armies and fleets, the Spanish political aims and aspirations associated with the wars mentioned above, and important trends in the evolution, even in peacetime, of the Spanish military establishment. UberCryxic's Military history of France would be a good model to follow. Albrecht 15:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I completely agree with you! This article should focus on general information, which includes the developement of tactics, technology, et cetera. The rise of Spanish military dominance in Europe and the fall (30 Years War?), et cetera. I think that the most difficult area to cover will be wars between 1870 and ~1910 - namely the Carlist Wars. Do we have any experts on that period? JonCatalan 16:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
We're almost completley missing the period of Spain's military greatness in the 15th and 16th century when it was both the strongest land and sea power. The adoption of the Tercio and the influence of Spanish military practise.Koonan the almost civilised 08:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I think first we should worry about how to organize the article. No use writing for it if it's going to be refaced soon. JonCatalan 19:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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