Talk:Mitteleuropa
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Admitting that I've no particular knowledge with regard to German WWI-plans, I would propose that the current wording of the first sentence would need adjustment:
- Mitteleuropa (German for Central Europe) refers to the policy created by the Central Powers in the last years of the World War I.
The policy in question did in my belief include also Finland, but Finland is hardly considered mitteleuropäisch by Germans. The current wording strikes me as slightly confused. One ought to differentiate between the policy, that may have affected Mitteleuropa, and the actual region. Mitteleuropa rather refers to the region than to the policy. /Tuomas 17:00, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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- Perhaps you are right, although I'm not sure about Finland. Perhaps the Central Powers were very glad that Finland was born, but the very concept of Mitteleuropa assumed the creation of small puppet states on the territory actually controlled by Germany and Austria-Hungary. Finland was far, far away.
[edit] puppet states
Good Idea, Ruhrjung. I switched the puppet state thingie a bit since I don't know anyone who would argue that those states were independent (perhaps except for Ukrainian nationalists). However, perhaps the puppet thing should be expanded a bit. After all most of these countries had various degrees of independence and at the end of 1918 Germany effectively lost control over most of them. Should we expand it or are the linked articles enough? [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 18:23, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
Trieste is very mitteleuropean, as well as the slovenian sides et are not mentioned?
[edit] Latvia/Estonia
Do Latvia and Estonia really belong on this list? Wasn't the plan to combine them into the United Baltic Duchy, which would then be a land in the German Empire, rather than a puppet state? --Jfruh 01:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] confused as to the map
the last paragraph does not match the map: Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland liberated themselves, after the collapse of Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary at the end of World War I. Soon they gained international recognition and participated in signing of the Versailles Treaty as members of the Entente. The other two (Belarus and Ukraine) were taken over by Russian SFSR and became Republics of the Soviet Union. The map does not match this as it does not highlight any of what would be the USSR (except the Kaliningrad Oblast). Should we not contain this article to mitteleuropa and not the territories of Brest-Litovsk?
--Jadger 02:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
