Talk:Mount Jefferson (Oregon)
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[edit] Mount Jeffersons
Presidential Range fails to link here (erroneously) only bcz link is Mt. Jefferson; needs disamb eventually. --Jerzy 05:48, 2003 Dec 13 (UTC)
- Oh yeah... Probably should move to Mount Jefferson (Oregon) etc, because I bet GNIS will tell us many more states have Jeffies somewhere in them. Stan 06:36, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Sounds like an effective convention to me. Guess i should go reread Presidential Range and see if it mentions a state.... [wink] --Jerzy 15:15, 2003 Dec 13 (UTC)
- It would make more sense to have the range's name as the disambiguator since some mountains sit astride borders and others share the same name as another mountain even within that border. In California, for example, there are several Table Mountains and Glass Mountains. Lakes are even worse. --mav 17:44, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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- Also helps with the situation where highest point in a state is on a mtn whose peak is in the next state! --Jerzy 19:15, 2003 Dec 13 (UTC)
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- A little more specifically, i'd suggest that groups of mountains that don't constitute ranges be acceptable, e.g. Mount Jefferson (White Mountains) and Appalachian Mountains)? And that the largest group that eliminates the ambiguity is usually preferable. I.e., not Mount Jefferson (Presidential Range) since the Whites and Appalachians include the Prezzies and the Blue Ridge respectively, each along with others, and are probably better known that the Presidentials and Blue Ridge?
- But am i right in assuming that "(Whites)", "(Presidentials)", and "(Appalachians)" are the wrong choice, esp. since they don't make clear whether to add "Mountains" or "Range" to complete the name? --Jerzy 02:50, 2003 Dec 14 (UTC)
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- There's no official standard, but when I add a disambiguator, I generally favor a word or phrase that is itself the name of an article, so searching will find - "Whites" is probably never used anywhere in WP to refer to any of the mountain ranges of that name, so "White Mountains" seems better. Either range or political unit would work, can't always do one or the other - there are three White Mountains in the US, more than one "Presidential Range" IIRC, not every mountain is part of a range, and as mav points out, states can have multiples too. Somewhere or another I've seen elevation used as disambiguator, but it will be a very long time before WP needs anything that desperate. Stan 04:12, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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The original article for the mountain in Oregon has now been moved to Mount Jefferson (Oregon). USGS GNIS listed 9 other mountains although they all exist in distinct states. I will change Mount Jefferson shortly to a disambiguation page. RedWolf 05:08, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Williamette River??
I've lived in Oregon all my life (fifth generation Oregonian in fact), and have never heard of the "Williamette" River. There's a rather prominent N-S flowing river that runs most the length of the Willamette Valley and at Portland empties in to the Columbia River, but it's called the Willamette River (no "i" after the last "l").
Is "Williamette" a spelling that captures some important piece of historical context, or should the spelling be changed to accurately represent the river's name as it written absolutely everywhere today?
If there is some latent historical insight in calling it "Williamette," can someone please update the "Willamette River" article to document that fact? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.9.146.66 (talk) 23:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC).