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Contents 1 Argentine politicians proliferation 2 Caroline Benn 3 Good work! 4 Support for an Egalitarian Republic 5 En español 6 Category:British MPs 7 Past comment 8 Bill Hamling 9 Thanks for expanding all those MP articles 10 Idris Owen 11 Council AFDs 12 Female life peers 13 Mayors of Colchester 14 British female MPs category for discussion err discussion 15 Thankyou! 16 Congress of Tucumán 17 Re: El Chango 18 MPs by Parliament 19 WPArgentina 20 Basque Country 21 CFD for MPs by Parliament 22 AfD Nomination: Donal Blaney 23 Basque Country 24 Liberal Unionists 25 British MPs/UK MPs 26 Embryonic Basque Portal and (maybe) Wikiproject. Interested? 27 Argentinidad 28 re: Category:Date of birth missing 29 Deletion 30 Trato hecho in Argentina 31 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can 32 Barnstar 33 University of Cordoba translation 34 SPATRA was updated! 35 Tennison Road 36 Tigre, Buenos Aires 37 A WikiProject you may be interested in...

[edit] Argentine politicians proliferation

Wow, that's a lot of work! Congratulations! I wanted to ask you were did you find the United Nations comment on Vicente López Partido. Thanks and good wiking! Mariano(t/c) 14:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. The info in question was from the ARI page which I have now added as a citation. I cannot find a better reference on UN or Vicente López sites, so perhaps it is best taken off entirely, as ARI is not exactly a useful source for this particular info. I know the UN does issue these awards as Porto Alegre is often cited as the UN's favourite municipality worldwide, but not sure which institution does it.

It would be a useful project for someone to complete a list of current members of Congress and perhaps those elected at each election, as there needs to be a stub for each of them. But not sure if it would be anyone's priority. Once I have created a stub for Patti, I'll go back to the 1816 Congresales who don't keep changing jobs and parties. Mtiedemann 14:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Caroline Benn

I see that you added to the above article the information that the Benns met over tea at Worcester College, Oxford. Then someone added her to the "former students of Worc Coll" Category, and I am about to reverse that (because Worcester certainly didn't take female students in 1949). I know that Tony B wasn't at Worcester, so I presume that they met in the rooms of some mutual friend - unless, perhaps, she taught at Worcester in some capacity. Or it could just be an error, not necessarily yours, of course. Do you know any more detail about their meeting? --GuillaumeTell 15:10, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good work!

Nothing too fancy, but I thought you deserved this, and I'm sure all the Argentine editors would agree.

You can do whatever you want with this barnstar: display it in your userpage, edit the text, or hide it somewhere. :) Keep up the good work! —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 11:29, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!! Mtiedemann 11:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I totally agree! Hey, one little thingy, which article, Argentine Declaration of Independence or Congress of Tucumán, should have the list of signatories/members? Take care! Mariano(t/c) 08:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! At the moment they both have it - is there anything wrong with that? I don't have access to information on the compostion such as whether there were changes in composition or whether there were delegates elected who did not attend. That would be better information for the Congress article whereas the declaration article is about one aspect of its work. Unbelievably the only book on the House that they sell there in its bookshop (at least in June) did not have information about the members, but I'll keep looking. Thanks, Martín 08:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Support for an Egalitarian Republic

Hey, check my comment about the page's name in Talk:Support for an Egalitarian Republic. What do you think? Should I change it? Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 21:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] En español

No sé hablar inglés. Aún así creo saber a lo que se refiere: el País Vasco es una comunidad autónoma de España. Eso es lo oficial y lo real. El territorio histórico del País Vasco ya tiene su artículo separado. Cuando alguien se refiere al País Vasco lo hace a la autonomía (p.e.: Bilbao está en el País Vasco). Satesclop 11:38, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Yo soy un usuario habitual de Wikipedia en Español, pero he editado hoy en esta Wikipedia porque los anglosajones no conocéis la realidad de España y pensáis que Ceuta, Melilla, las Islas Canarias, Cataluña, Euskadi, etc... son territorios que pertenecen a España, y en realidad todos esos son parte íntegra de España. Ninguna comunidad autónoma española tiene una "selección nacional de fútbol", y llamarla así es vandalismo. Por otra parte, me parece que usted no tiene un nivel de español es-4, sino más bien un es-3. ¿No sabe utilizar los acentos en español? Satesclop 12:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I cannot speak in a language that I don't know. I you inform that I will not be able to take part in a discussion on this matter because I don't speak this language. (This is an automatic translation). Saludos. Satesclop 13:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:British MPs

You may be interested in this: Uniltateral subdivision of British/United Kingdom/Scottish constituencies --BrownHairedGirl 09:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Past comment

Hi there Mtiedemann! - Thanks for the comment that you left on my talk page, I really appreciate it. One of the reasons of why I was not adding my new works in the ARNB, was because I had the thought that I was going to cause some kind of 'clutter'. In a way they didn't seem as important as the articles listed there which are related to either politics, geography, bios, etc... As you said, it's also a good way of promoting certain topics, maybe some others will contribute as well expanding the films or other kind of entertainment types. And hey, although politics and history is not my thing, for the rest is important. See ya around. CROWDUDE 12:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Hamling

Thanks for updating William Hamling. Glad to see someone else knows of him. Nunquam Dormio 17:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

No probs, I didn't know him before but I am going through UK politicians. Thanks again, Martín (saying/doing) 17:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for expanding all those MP articles

Hi Mtiedemann. I just wanted to thank you for your feedback and for expanding/cleaning all those British MP articles I created - I noticed you were doing that a few days ago. I've not been a Wikipedian for very long and it's helpful to be given advice by an expert such as yourself. I'm generally working backwards from the 1992 election for MPs without articles, and I have copies of the Times Guide to the House of Commons going back from 2005 to October 1974 so far. I use the MPs elected in the UK general election "year" articles to see if the individual MPs have articles or not, then create them if they're highlighted in red instead of blue. --Dovea 19:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Idris Owen

This is what the Times Guide to the House of Commons October 1974 says about Mr Idris Owen: held the seat (Stockport North) for the Conservatives from 1970 to February 1974. Contested it in 1966, Stalybridge and Hyde 1955 and Manchester Exchange 1951. Company director in the construction industry. B 1912; ed Stockport School and College of Technology and Manchester School of Commerce. Fellow, Institute of Builders. Vice-president, National Federation of Building Trades Employers, 1965. Vice-chairman, Conservative parliamentary housing and construction commitee 1972-1974.

As for the Labour and Co-operative Party MPs, I only found them as noted on the articles listing all the MPs elected at each general election, eg. MPs elected in the United Kingdom general election, 1992. I hope this info is helpful, it's the least I can do after you expanded all those articles. Regards, --Dovea 11:21, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Council AFDs

I saw your note about the AFDs on User_talk:Timrollpickering#Councillors_for_AfD. If you've added the notability tags and nothing has happened, you could use {{prod}} rather than taking it to AFD: after all, if nobody is interested in the article it is likely to be an uncontroversial delete, and is better than listing lots of almost identical AFDs. Yomangani 15:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks that's useful. I've just tried it out on a bunch from Brentwood and Colchester, so we'll see how it works. Martín (saying/doing) 18:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Female life peers

Reply on my talk: all done. --BrownHairedGirl 20:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, by the way - that was great. Martín (saying/doing) 14:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mayors of Colchester

Surely the object of Wikipedia is to add & expand information, not to delete it? Davidbober 14:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe that Wikipedia has a role to catalogue info on local government and have created the hierarchy for UK councillors and several local government articles because it is important to me. What I don't think we can have is a biography on every councillor (tens of thousands in just the last five years), for whom there is little information which can be independently verifiable from a reliable source, nor would there be very much to say which is encyclopedic anyway. A list of Mayors and a list of councillors elected at each election is sufficient to show name, ward, party, year - all that is really relevant.

I am sorry of your hard work goes in the process - it's happened to me too. Martín (saying/doing) 14:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I suppose so... Oh well, if I find anything specificially encylopedic on individuals then I will recreate articles as needed. I think the following can safely be deleted.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Sutton
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bouckley
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hall
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Chapman
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hogg
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Hunt
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cannon
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Webb

List to delete looks about right based on that criteria. Davidbober 02:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British female MPs category for discussion err discussion

Hi there. As someone who had commented earlier today at CFD for British female MPs, I wanted to inform you that there was a later nomination in the day regarding the same related categories and I wanted to make sure that you had the opportunity to view the newly refactored discussion. Both original nominations and their discussions are preserved. We can try to sort out the best decision regarding these categories if you choose not to clarify, but I'd appreciate it if you could. Thanks very much for your understanding. Syrthiss 22:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thankyou!

Thanks v much for the barnstar :) It cheered me up immensely after a day where I beginning to think that wikipedia was a nightmare :( --BrownHairedGirl 15:01, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

My pleasure! Martín (saying/doing) 07:50, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congress of Tucumán

Great Job, Martinček! As a child I always wandered who were all those guys from street names around my place in Almagro. In fact, when waiting for each of the articles you were spitting out to open up in my browser, I was always hoping to see the description of a street. ;o) Take care, and keep rocking! Mariano(t/c) 07:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

You're right - what a good idea! I kept thinking this would turn into an article about Palermo Viejo, maybe I'll go back and add them! Martín (saying/doing) 07:50, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: El Chango

Yessss, my preciousss, picturessssss we want!! Mariano(t/c) 07:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The quest is progressing well, a few more days and the ring photo will be mine. Martín (saying/doing) 07:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Great!

Y'now what? The guys at the Spanish wikipedia (es:Wikiproyecto:Argentina) are having a turbo on science articles. If you'r interested check es:Wikiproyecto:Argentina/Ciencias and es:Wikiproyecto:Argentina/Noticias. Mariano(t/c) 11:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Great picture!! You think I should touch it a bit to reduce smoke noise (more contrast), or leave it as is for dramatic effect? By the way, you've got mail. Mariano(t/c) 09:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I lightened it somewhat with some increased contrast already as it was very moodily dark in the original, but if it needs more, feel free. I can send you the original if you like. Martín (saying/doing) 09:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MPs by Parliament

I have made a suggestion for how to categorise MPs by Parliament: see Category talk:British_MPs#MPs_by_Parliament, and would welcome your comments. --BrownHairedGirl 21:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WPArgentina

Hi Martín, nice to meet you or un gusto (because it's the first time we talk, :-)). Congratulations for your great edits at WIkipedia. About the template, I like it; about the tagging, it was me making some mistakes under thinking for a right one; about La Paternal (my neighbourhood!!!), I considered it as low importance because 1) if a capital city must be of high importance, 2) a tourist zone (like Palermo) must be of mid/high importance, 3) other neighbourhoods must be of mid/low importance, but I think it's wrong; about GA or A-Class, other mistake by myself. Best regards, and hope to talk to you more frequently. Mxcatania 13:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

PS: Martín, I want to compose a subproject Argentine Football inside WPArgentina. Not sure about to start. Don't know if you like football, but for me it would be great. You can help!

Thanks for your comments - of course I like football (tengo la camiseta puesta!). But living in the UK it's so hard to get a real feel for what's going on so I don't think I'm the best person. I'm always happy to help where I can though, and I think there are enough other editors to make it a success. Martín (saying/doing) 13:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi! About the WikiProject, I want to do a SubProject, not a WikiProject. I don't know, maybe it's a neologism by myself, but the SubProject Argentine Football (inside WikiProject Argentina) would be nice stuff. About the banner, I support your idea. Best, Mxcatania 15:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Basque Country

Hi Mtiedemann, I saw that Basque Country needed disambiguation at Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/2006-07-17 dump, and took up the task. I was not totally familiar with the issue so I did quite a lot of reading, and looked at the history of the pages to understand what the issues were with it. I'm still not totally confident that I'm always making the right dab, but the disambiguation has to be done. For example, there are many times that I would like to refer to a region that Basque people live in currently (but that is not totally congruent with the Autonomous region of Spain, or the historical territory) and so it makes it difficult. -- Jeff3000 13:58, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Another problem is that the Basque Country (autonomous community) page's history section does not give a good history from around the 16th century where the Basque community was divided as part of Spain and France, but basically functioned as an autonomous regions in both countries. Instead the history mainly starts after Franco. -- Jeff3000 15:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Well I won't claim to be an expert but it's really complicated! Part of the controversy is about a Basque sense of identity and nationhood itself. Modern Basque nationalists like to draw parallels with ancient traditions and the Kingdom of Navarre. Other presumably 'pro-Madrid' editors have taken pains to mention, even where not really relevant, that the symbols of Basque nationhood and the words used to describe Basque institutions were largely invented by Arana in the early 20th century, and there is perhaps a truth to the fact that Basques were more interested in local power and language, than race and nationhood and geography. Naturally it is much more complicated than either extreme and, more relevant to my own original point, much of land-owning, Catholic and conservative Navarre and Álava were often at odds with mountainous and outward-facing Gipuzkoa and Bizkaia. So they were largely on different sides in the 19th century Carlist wars and again in the Civil War. Navarre is very polarised to this day. So I think it's rather hard to attempt a history of the southern Basque Country over that period without straying into even more controversial areas. For the Northern Basque Country, the major incident was the French Revolution where regional identity was suppressed. The provinces' autonomy and fueros were ended at that time. Martín (saying/doing) 16:01, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CFD for MPs by Parliament

see CFD for category:MPs of the United Kingdom House of Commons, by Parliament and subcategories. Your comments would be welcome. --BrownHairedGirl 17:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Nomination: Donal Blaney

[edit] Basque Country

The Basque Country is only an autonomous community. Navarre is not Basque, and France less. To say that Euskal Herria exists belongs to fools. To say that Euskal Herria is a nationality belongs to ignoramuses. To give more importance to not official instead of to the official thing is intolerable. The things must be oficialiting. Is it Scotland a nation? Is Alsace a German territory? I am very tiring of lies and falsehoods. Satesclop 13:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

¿Sabía usted que la gran mayoría de navarros, y vasco-franceses repudian Euskadi? El País Vasco es lo que es, y me parece muy bien que haya un artículo sobre el territorio histórico vasco, pero nada más. Euskadi no es una nación ni una nacionalidad. El sistema de división administrativa de España es muy diferente al del Reino Unido. Lo vasco es español, no francés. Cuando yo tenga tiempo le revertiré. Saludos. Satesclop 13:37, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liberal Unionists

Hi Martin, I see that we now have two categories for Liberal Unionist politicianss.

• Cat:UK Liberal Unionist politicians, which you created in April
• Cat:UK Liberal Unionist Party politicians, created in September by [User:John Kenney|John Kenney]]

They ought to be merged; any preferences about which one should stay? see Category talk:UK Liberal Unionist Party politicians --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 21:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for the heads-up. I am a bit out of it at the moment but my initial thought is that I created it without 'Party' to encompass that time when it couldn't really be called a Party, but probably most of those became formal Liberal Unionists, so it's a moot point. I don't have a strong opinion, except that they should be merged - I'll say so at the talk page. Martín (saying/doing) 09:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British MPs/UK MPs

Hi Martin, I'd value your thoughts on Category talk:British MPs#Renaming_subcategories_after_restructuring. --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 11:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Embryonic Basque Portal and (maybe) Wikiproject. Interested?

Hi. I have noticed that you have been recently noticeably active in the discussion/edition on some pages of Basque theme. If you are interested in adding up to this project, please visit my talk page (and check this draft for the portal contents). --Sugaar 21:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Argentinidad

Los invito a participar de Argentinidad, un proyecto wiki que usa el mismo software que wikipedia, y por ende funciona exactamente igual. Es una wikipedia de la argentina con un punto de vista patriótico-nacional.

Aquí se podrán crear artículos sobre la cultura, geografía, economía, historia, gente y demás de la Argentina, con la condición de que el punto de vista NO sea neutral, sino argentino . Este no es un lugar para la militancia política o social, sólo para escribir y "hacer algo". Para eso estamos, para los que nos cansamos de que insulten al País y ver como el mundo de nosotros ríe. Siempre se dijo, "hay que hacer algo" pero nadie lo hizo. Es dificil hacer algo, nadie por sí solo va a levantarse un día y transformar a la Patria en una potencia mundial, o expulsar a los ingleses de las Malvinas, pero no por eso se va a "hacer nada". Espero que te unas al proyecto, cordialmente

Andrés 02:10 19 nov 2006 (CET)

[edit] re: Category:Date of birth missing

Good afternoon. Per the discussion about privacy concerns expressed at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of birthdays, date of birth should generally not be added to the biographies of living non-public or semi-public figures. So far, that policy has been interpreted fairly strictly with a pretty high bar being set for the definition of "public figures" who are assumed to have given up their rights to privacy.

By the same token, we should not be adding Category:Date of birth missing to articles unless we have made the case that the person meets the "public figures" threshold. Otherwise, we're just baiting new users into adding content even though the community has already said that we shouldn't include that particular data point. Category:Year of birth missing is okay but the exact date is often not. Thanks for your help. Rossami (talk) 21:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Hi Martin, just a quick note to say that I deleted a redirect you created yesterday.

It was Thomas Henderson (Scotland), redirecting to Thomas Henderson (Labour politician). I changed all the links to bypass the redirects, and then deleted Thomas Henderson (Scotland) because there are two Scottish politicians of similar era called Thomas Henderson: the other is Thomas Henderson (1874-1951) (see Thomas Henderson for the full list).

Hope that's OK! --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 08:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Of course! I was just dabbling. Martín (saying/doing) 23:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trato hecho in Argentina

Is Trato hecho Argentina's version of Let's Make A Deal (trade stuff for what's behind the curtain) or Deal or No Deal (pick a suitcase and the bank offers you money for it)? They are two shows with entirely different concepts. --Goldrushcavi 03:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

• Never mind, I did a little research and found the answer. I clarified your addition accordingly. --Goldrushcavi 03:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] Barnstar

		The Society Barnstar
		With thanks for your numerous contributions. Timrollpickering 18:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks Tim! Martín (saying/doing) 10:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University of Cordoba translation

Hi-- you were one of the supporters of Universidad Nacional de Córdoba for SPATRA (back in August). I'm kind of new to this, so I don't know if I overstepped my bounds by going ahead and translating the article. In any event, if you have a chance please check out my translation and give me your opinion on it. Thanks! Jlaramee 14:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SPATRA was updated!

--Fsotrain⁰⁹ 00:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tennison Road

Hi Mtiedemann. I nominated the above article for deletion on grounds of non-notability. However, it's being disputed, so I'm wondering whether you (being someone I recognise as having good familiarity with Croydon-related topics) would have a view on the matter. Cheers, A bit iffy 04:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tigre, Buenos Aires

Hello Mtiedemann, I presume you're the creator of Tigre, Buenos Aires, took the liberty and did some copyedit and visual enhancements in your page, please revise and let me know your thoughts, I also linked your page to others and placed image in Paraná Delta, by the way, i spent lots of holidays deep in the Delta when young, Kindly – Moebiusuibeom 18:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A WikiProject you may be interested in...

Hi there! I notice you're from Surrey - please take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Surrey, which I started earlier this afternoon. Cheers.--Vox Humana 8' 21:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)