User talk:MureninC

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Talk:Borat 3 User:UBX/OpenBSDfw 4 open source wireless drivers 5 Java applets 6 Excuse me? 7 Clueless 8 Russian Internet Exchange Points 9 Russian telephone numbering plan

[edit] Welcome

Please check the Russia portal and especially its notice boards that you may want to add to your watchlist. Cheers, --Irpen 03:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, but it looks too overwhelmed, I don't know if it's of any use to me. :-) Cheers, User:MureninC 03:44 5 January 2006 GMT

OK, to make your life easier just check out the notice board Portal:Russia/New article announcements. Please announce the articles you will create there and, by adding it to your watchlist, you will see new articles others create that you would find worth to look at. Similarly, there is a sister: Portal:Ukraine/New article announcements. Thanks, --Irpen 04:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

okay, I don't have to announce redirects I create or edits to existing articles, do I? -- cnst, 2006-01-05T04:16Z

No redirects. Edits to the existing ones only if they substantially revise the article, such as you expanded a pity stub and made a decent article out of it or rewrote some article completely. Only the major things like this. --Irpen 04:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

okay. I don't think I'm yet interested too much in the community, I just use wikipedia when I need to find something, so I don't think I'm going to watch Russian portal. I don't plan to be a full-time contributor anyhow. :-) MureninC 04:30, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Borat

Thanks for your informative response to my question on Talk:Borat! Also, thanks for your edits to the "Borat Code" section of the article; they are definitely an improvement over what I had put there. Cheers! --Lph 12:38, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

You are welcome! :-) I'm glad you like it. Cheers, MureninC 21:37, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:UBX/OpenBSDfw

Thanks for fixing that typo in the template, I'd probably have not noticed for a long time. Janizary 22:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I was just hoping that it wasn't intentional. :-) Right now as you told me, I've googled for "wirelwall", and it turns out that the term "wirewall" is sometimes used to mean "wireless firewall". :-) Well, something new every day! Cheers, MureninC 23:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] open source wireless drivers

see the talk page you have a message

[edit] Java applets

Couldn't possibly leave you in a state of not having seen a Java applet: click here. Stephen B Streater 18:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

It says, "Click here to get the plugin". No, thanks. :) MureninC 18:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

You can go to a cybercafe and use one of their machines then :-) Stephen B Streater 19:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I doubt it's worth it, I don't want to agree to SUN's NDA. :) MureninC 19:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I look forward to your implementation then! Stephen B Streater 21:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Excuse me?

I find your allegations that I was intending to perform harmful edits on NVIDIA and FOSS disturbing, especially since you gave the following summary: "revert recent vandalisms by Ariedartin (who removed some reference links, misnamed the reference links that he left, and overall screwed up the aesthetics and completeness of the article).

Primarily, this was in no way a vandalism, nor had I screwed up the aesthetics of the article. I was only intending that the article followed Wikipedia's guidelines on not letting Wikipedia being a mirror or repository of links and Wikimedia's network-wide guideline on when you should link externally.

Secondly, calling my edits vandalism is in violation of Wikipedia's policy to assume good faith. I intended to help where I believed to be essential to Wikipedia's development as an online encyclopedia. It does not matter whether you agreed with my edits or not, but I had only hoped that my edits would be taken civily.

Furthermore, I did not name the reference links according to the website's title, but rather by what content it contributed to the article. While this was not a full citation, I believed it was far more descriptive and accurate to the reader than what simple bracketing the links would do. Hence, this did not harm the article either.

Lastly, I would like to make it a point that the rationale for my actions were in my summary and there should have been no reason for you to mislabel my edits as vandalism.

I would like to seek a reply from you on this issue. Ariedartin JECJY ^Talk 06:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

If you want me to be more specific, here are some concrete mistakes that you have made in your "1 November 2006" edits of the article:

• you have labelled the link to "alt.binary newsgroup" as "anti-binary community", providing extreme bios that is by no means present in the actual name of the place
• I don't know whether you use Unix systems or not, but in Unix all references to the manual pages always have links. Whilst I appreciate that having too many links may worsen the article, in this instance these links are references to the original sources rather than simply third-party links, and they do not in any way confuse the reader. Their absence, however, does make things worse, as people have to manually search for these links to verify the claims, or to know more about the issue. It is not practical to create a page for every driver on wikipedia, thus external links have to be provided when talking about particular drivers, which is what the whole article is about. (In a sense, this article consists of several tiny articles, and providing a common "references" source, where each reference references a single line in the article is not something that one would consider useful.)
• you have removed the links to Plan9 source code and OpenBeOS page, making the claims about those drivers unverifiable
• You've put the list of references to the "External Links" section, although the section already had actual External Links, and thus the reference list looked really odd. This really screwed up the presentation and style of the article.

Also, while we are at it, I'd like to point to some major mistakes that you have introduced in your "19 October 2006" edit of the very same article:

• you have attributed that Andrew Fear spoke regarding to the exploit coding, whilst in reality he said those things at another occasion regarding nvidia's drivers, it just so happened that the exploit authors have used his words in their comments to their exploit. I.e. you have changed a piece of information without actually knowing what you are changing it to.
• you have removed the link to the BeOS driver website, leaving the claim about BeOS driver completely unverified, which in turn caused someone to remove the entry about BeOS driver altogether in a subsequent revision due to the absence of any source explaining that the driver is free and works on a FOSS system (OpenBeOS)

I believe that this summary should provide you with an adequate explanation of my actions against your edits in the article. "Assume good faith" page that you have referenced clearly indicates that the "policy does not require that editors continue to assume good faith in the presence of evidence to the contrary". I understand that you have not made the harm on purpose, but more due to the lack of knowledge about the matter; however, this does not provide you with a valid excuse to continue in such activity. Based on your previous edits of this article, I would sincerely ask you to resist from making any further changes to the NVIDIA and FOSS article. Thank you very much for you cooperation, MureninC 22:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clueless

The German article on VIA is wrong on multiple points. I've read it. IDT WinChip | VIA Cyrix III are on different pages, despite being THE SAME PRODUCT. C3 and C7 are on different pasges, despite being THE SAME PRODUCT! You honestly think a confused attempt to recycle VIA press releases is writing? Stop talking nonsense. What part of PROCESSORS ARE GROUPED BY CORE NOT BY MARKETING DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? Do you know that marketing is banned from the WIKIPEDIA? Read the IT sections, NVIDIA, ATI, Intel, AMD, etc, etc, thats how it works. Don't take my word for it. Thats the accepted way the WIKI works. Timharwoodx 19:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, yeah, we've heard it from you already. Noone else thinks the same, though, and you seem to forget that wikipedia is not the place for original research, and neither is it the place for renaming the well-known concepts, including the marketing ones, into something that you, and you alone, think is more appropriate. MureninC 21:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Russian Internet Exchange Points

Hi, and thanks for making the useful edits to the IXP page. I'm one of the people who maintains the Packet Clearing House IXP directory from which much of the data on the Wikipedia page comes. Unfortunately, our one Russian-speaker left a couple of years ago, and I only have sporadic contact with folks at RIPN. Since you seem to be well-apprised of what's happening there, I wonder if you might take a look through our Russia section, and let me know if we've got any obvious errors, or if you could fill in any omissions? Particularly valuable are the IP subnets of the IX switch-fabrics themselves. Also, do you know anything about an IX in Ekaterinburg? I haven't been able to find a web site or anything, just the one mention. Thanks much for your time. Bill Woodcock 20:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for your comment. I've looked at your PCH web-site before you've posted this comment, and unfortunately, I've come to realise that PCH seems to be the most complete source of information concerning Russian Internet Exchange Points. I am a computer science student in the US now, and don't have any more information about Russian IXPs than the public information that's posted on various web-sites; although granted, most of this information is in Russian, so I'll have a better grasp of it. :) I've tried to look around for Ural-IX, but I didn't find anything specific, although you might be interested in the new changes that I've just made to the Internet Exchange Points in Russia article (the links should include some address space information on Chelyabinsk and some mrtg stats). Feel free to contact me by email if there is something I can help you with, although I am now in the middle of an exam period, so I don't promise a quick reply. :) Cheers, MureninC 00:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I've added Chelyabinsk to our database, so we'll continue tracking it... It looks like they're using RFC1918 space for the switch-fabric subnet, which is unfortunate, since that will break traceroutes that go through it, and make them effectively invisible.  :-/ I linked to their MRTG stats, but we only automatically archive aggregate stats for an exchange, not individual per-port stats, since most IXPs don't publish those for privacy reasons. Good luck with your exams! Where are you studying? One of our researchers is just applying to the CS doctoral program at Berkeley for next year, and going through all of that first-time-to-the-U.S. nervousness. Bill Woodcock 00:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Russian telephone numbering plan

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Russian telephone numbering plan, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. sendmoreinfo 14:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)