Talk:Nasal irrigation

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Contents 1 Merge proposal: Jala neti into Nasal irrigation 2 More citations 3 Saltwater available in a pressurized can 4 this doesn't work 5 Cleanup

[edit] Merge proposal: Jala neti into Nasal irrigation

Support. I proposed the merge because they are essentially about the same thing, but Nasal irrigation is the broader term. Jala neti would still be the main focus, but the merge would save duplication of material, and enable comparison to be mades with other techniques where relevant. --Singkong2005 21:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC) - Withdrawn

Having just read about traditional nasal cleansing in other cultures (see link under More citations, below), I can see that separate articles might be warranted, so I'll withdraw the proposal for now.

However, most Jala neti-specific material should be moved to Jala neti. --Singkong2005 22:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

In that case, I'm removing the merge tag. bobanny 03:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I put the merge tag there and I haven't withdrawn it. That comment is from a year ago. — Omegatron 06:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know when the tag originally went in, but there's not much discussion on the issue, and if it's been there a year, it could be there forever. After reading through both articles, Jala neti seems to be a variation on the same thing. I'd suggest going ahead with the merge, and if someone comes up with verifiable info showing Jala neti to be qualitatively different beyond what a subsection can accomodate, a separate article could be recreated. As is, it appears "Nasal irrigation" is a general, descriptive term that could easily cover the two. bobanny 19:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More citations

I found Nasal irrigation and Jala neti helpful, but could be improved further with more citations, in line with Wikipedia principles of verifiability. Btw, this link has some interesting suggestions, but it would be better to find original sources, e.g. about traditional use of nasal cleansing in Scandinavia. --Singkong2005 21:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

This could be a useful starting point for research: Abstracts of Medical Studies and Testimonials on the Benefits of Nasal Cleansing - but note that it's a commercial site. It would be best to look up the research referred to here, then cite it directly. --Singkong2005 00:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saltwater available in a pressurized can

Trade name Sterimar [1]

[edit] this doesn't work

I tried it just now .. the water just flowed through my nasal passages and straight down my throat. It doesn't stay in your nose --Froth 04:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

You have to tilt your head further forward. --greenmoss 01:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

You also need to lift your tongue into the soft palette of your mouth like you're going to say the letter "K" Mikebellman 06:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I tried it. It stayed in my nose, and there was a distinct and alarming burning sensation coming from my cheek area on the nostril that I started to put the water in. The pain lasted several minutes and was most disturbing... Pyrogen 15:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Weird. You used saline and pH balanced water, right? Did it get lodged in a sinus? I've heard that happens to surfers, and then drains out randomly at inopportune times. But if it's the right salinity I don't think it would burn; just feel plugged up.

I bought a little squeeze bottle kit a few weeks ago with pre-mixed packets of salt and baking soda (remind me to upload a picture), and have been using it occasionally. It works great for me. It's not astounding and magical and making my whole life better and everyone running happily through green fields or anything, but I can certainly breathe a lot better for a few hours afterwards, and I'm not getting nosebleeds as often. — Omegatron 18:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

Hopefully I haven't harmed anything in the major cleanup I just performed. Highlights of what I did:

• Removed a commercial link and a dead link
• Removed/reworked awkward/redundant wording.
• Used standard reference template

Some remaining work:

• The sinus irrigation section could still use a lot of work to sound like an encyclopedia instead of a howto.

Pursuant to policy on Wikipedia not being an Instruction Manual, I decided to Be Bold and removed the how-to information and placed what the methods are -- irrigation of the nasal and sinuses cavities. If someone can expand on those methods without turning it into a how-to article, that'd be great. Pyrogen 15:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

• I identified an assertion that could use a reference
• One article was referred to by two different links, so I standardized on the Pubmed link.
• Avoid so much text quoting especially in the lead section. Paraphrase and citing sources is classier and easier to read, and still correctly attributes its sources.
• Find a more scholarly source than seniorhealth.about.com. Nothing against the site, but it's shy of the appropriate source for a Wikipedia article, especially one with a medical component to it.
• Pictures or diagrams would be great

-Quintote 05:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)