Talk:New Democracy (Greece)

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What is the name of the party opposing this one in Greece, i.e. the one that just got slung out? Mr. Jones 11:08, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

PASOK Secretlondon 11:09, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks; the party seems to have at least three names, so I couldn't find it by scanning. User:Adam Carr, why did you delete the link I added without adding a link in the text? Any particular reason? Mr. Jones 13:39, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The party's name is Panhellenic Socialist Movement, and its Greek acronym is PASOK. The name is already linked in the text. It does not need another link. Adam 13:48, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ideology of the party

Hi, you try to add New Democracy as a liberal party. Isn't this a conservative party? Since they align themselves with the International Democratic Union and EPP-ED... Intangible 16:48, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello there. I added New Democracy as a liberal party on the basis of its political program, which is defined on the official party platform as "radical liberalism", and "the prevalence of free market rules with the decisive intervention of the state in favour of social justice". That would not be considered exactly in step with most definitions of "conservatism" would it now? Porfyrios 17:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello there, Electionworld. I noticed that you removed the Greek New Democracy party from the list of liberal parties, on the basis of affiliation with international organizations. Are you sure that is exclusively how we want to judge the ideological leanings of political parties? I believe ND's program, which is defined on the official party platform as "radical liberalism", and more specifically "the prevalence of free market rules with the decisive intervention of the state in favour of social justice", would suffice to support a different position. Regards, Porfyrios 17:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Clear is that the New Democracy party is not the succesor of the old liberal and centrist current in Greece. The party is the continuation of the old National Radical Union ERE. I won't deny that liberals are involved in the party, the general profil is more conservative (see the New Democracy entry: liberal-conservative party. Alan J . Day in Political Parties of the World, 5th edition, labels the party as a moderate conservative party. The economic platform doesn't say all about the idologicla position, more conservative parties emphasize a free market and certian forms of intervention of the state. I would be interested to find out more about the political programme on separation of church and State, cultural liberty etc. Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 17:19, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, only yesterday, the New Democracy government repealed a law that was continuously standing from 1936 [1] (including 20 years of socialist rule), which required approval by the local Christian Orthodox Metropolitan for the building of temples by non-orthodox religious groups. As for cultural liberty, New Democracy's legalization of non state-owned radio and television channels, and the lifting of the state's monopoly on broadcasts (late eighties/early nineties) come to mind. A conservative current does also exist in New Democracy ; but that does not change the fact that the party lays claim to the mantle of liberalism, economically as well as politically. Porfyrios 17:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I would like to see some more interventions before adding the party as a liberal party. Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 18:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Could you explain what you mean by "interventions"? I'm afraid I don't understand it. Porfyrios 18:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I meant remarks or contributions to this discussion by other editors. Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 18:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm against it. —Nightstallion (?) 12:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Personally, i am for it. Indeed, ND is not related with the centrists before the colonels' junta. However, i strongly believe that we must judge parties' ideology by its present policy. Undoubtedly, ND is the political force that express liberalism in Greece. And I tell this because i am a greek citizen and not austrian.

It has no ideology... Mitsos 12:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, i agree with Porfyrios. Secondly, i would like to ask one simple question: how can you express an opinion for a political party, and especially its ideology, of a country since you don't live in it?. If we want this process to be objective we should not take into consideration interventions like Nightstallion's one.--Conefst 12:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Infoboxes

I suggest the creation of infoboxes for greek political parties. Greece is one of the last EU countries whose parties have no infoboxes.--Conefst 12:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)