Talk:New Jersey Transit Bus Operations

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[edit] Cleanup of this article

As per classes, I have placed the cleanup tag on this page. Please aid in cleanup. AEMoreira042281 20:26, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I rated this as Start-class mostly because of three things:

The article is 41kb long but only shows 3 references.
The article has many lists and tables, but not much prose.
The history section need expansion.

That the article is mostly unreferenced is the biggest criticism. If you can address any of these issues, I would move it up to B-class right away. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 21:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

On that, the one issue I am unsure of what to resolve is the roster, which is updated as buses are moved around. As for the rest of the article, I am sourcing it, although the New Jersey Transit website and an unofficial site are my two main sources.

If there is something that should be cites, please tag it with {{fact}}, other than the roster which is frequently updated and changed. AEMoreira042281 04:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

If the roster changes frequently, I would suggest that it may not be suitable for an encyclopedia article. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Roster has been removed, but depot assignments remain, as they are sourced. AEMoreira042281 06:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

If there's going to be a new source for the bus roster, it would be nice if there was a link to it. I understand why it's not suitable for Wikipedia, but I found it very useful. Is it possible to provide a link for that information as an external link? Ctrabs74 12:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Separate routes into a new article?

This article is becoming very long. If done, PDF links will be added to the route numbers. (The article would be New Jersey Transit bus routes.) AEMoreira042281 03:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

You could model it after list of bus routes in Manhattan, split into two articles by division. Do you know anything about their history as streetcar lines? According to [1] (ca. 1926) the Public Service Railway split the numbering at Trenton; is that where the divisions are split? (See [2] for a rough map of Public Service.) [3] and its "past and present" links has some historic information. --NE2 04:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll start the new list, for now at Talk:New Jersey Transit Bus Operations/temporary. --NE2 13:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Partial list of former and current private companies

Feel free to edit this. --NE2 10:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Current

A&C Bus Corporation
Academy Lines
Bergen Avenue Bus Owners Association: Jersey City, operates through the Holland Tunnel and a Bergen Avenue Local [4]
Broadway Bus Owners Association: Bayonne [5]
Carefree Bus Lines
Community Bus Lines (Coach USA): includes 2 Passaic-Allwood-Bloomfield, 77 Port Authority, and ? Morristown [6]
DeCamp Bus Lines: includes 32 Nutley-New York, 33 Caldwell-New York and Montclair, 44 ?-New York, 66 Montclair-New York, 77 Morristown-New York, 88 ?-New York, 99 Kearny-New York, 145 Newark, and 146 Walnut Street [7]
Lafayette and Greenville Independent Bus Owners Association
Lakeland Bus Lines
Leisure Line (Coach USA)
Lion Trailways
No. 22 Hillside Corporation (Academy)
Olympia Trails Bus Company (Coach USA)
Orange, Newark, Elizabeth Bus (Coach USA)
Rockland Coaches/The Red & Tan Lines (Coach USA): includes 99 Jersey City Express, 4 Ridgefield-Palisade Park, 5 New York, 11A West Haverstraw-41st Street via Turnpike, 11A Montvale, and 47 ? [8] (it may be best to separate the 99 service from the other Rockland Coaches services as they're two separate operations, IIRC)
Short Line Bus (Coach USA)
Suburban Transit Corporation (Coach USA)
Trans-Bridge Lines
Trans-Hudson Express

(I removed some of the operators listed who do not operate service for NJT or operate service within the state.)Ctrabs74 22:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Former

Trackless Transit Company: current 94, started 1922
- East Orange Transit Lines: current 97, acquired 1966 from PSCT, transferred 1969
- Newark Caldwell Bus Line?: current 71, acquired 1948 from DeCamp (which got it in 1925 from Harry Youngjohn), transferred 1957

A. E. Vanderhoof and Sons?
Bayview Bus?: included Woodbridge Mall to South Amboy and New Brunswick [9]
Bergen and Central Bus Company
Beviano Chartered Service
Central Avenue Bus Owners Association: included Central Avenue - Medical? Center - Journal Square - CNJ Station in Jersey City [10]; later Coach USA's 231; cancelled in January 2006 and replaced by NJT's 981 [11][12]
City Service Transit Company: included Rutherford-Newark [13]
Coast Cities Coaches: included 5 Asbury Park via Ocean Avenue, 7 Asbury Park-Long Branch, and 31 Oakhurst-Asbury Park [14]
Domenico Bus Service: included Staten Island-Bayonne, Brooklyn, Madison Avenue Express, Richmond Avenue, Hylan Boulevard, 23rd/5th to 40th/9th, [15]
Downtown Bus Company
Drogin Bus Company, 1930-1997: operated what became Red & Tan in Hudson County's 144 and possibly the ONE
Elizabeth-Union-Hillside-Irvington Bus Line?
Garden State Bus Lines
Graope Transportation Company?
Henry Hohorst: on Central and Bergen Avenues [16]
Hudson Bus Transportation Company: included 4 Ridgefield-Palisades Park [17] and Merritt and Ocean Avenues to Midtown [18]
Hudson County Executive Express: Port Authority-Union City [19]
Inter-City Transportation Company
John A. Policastro Company?
Manhattan Transit Company
Maplewood Equipment Company: included 1 River Road Express, 7 Cliffside Park-?-Weehawken-West New York-Union City-North Bergen, 9 ?, 30 Paterson-New York, 35 Express Hackensack-Maywood-Paramus-Ridgewood, 45 Hackensack-Rochelle Park-Ridgewood, [20]
Marion Bus Transportation Company
Martucci Bus Company
Montgomery and West Side Bus?
Newark-Elizabeth Bus Owners Association?
North Boulevard Transportation Company
North Newark Bus Owners Association?
Orange and Black Bus Lines
Pisano Bus Company?
Somerset Bus Company
South Orange Avenue Independent Bus Owners Association
South Hudson County Boulevard Bus Owners Association? Hudson County Boulevard? Bee Eight Bus Company?: included 1 Union City-West New York-North Bergen, 1 Journal Square, 5 New York, and 10 Jersey City-Bayonne Local [21]
Springfield Avenue Bus Owners Association?
T. A. Gearty Bus Company?
W & W Bus Company?
Washington Street Bus Association?
Waverly Bus Company?
Will Morris Bus Company?: 38 North Arlington-Kearny-East Newark-Harrison-Newark