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Talk:New York's Village Halloween Parade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Talk:New York's Village Halloween Parade

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[edit] to Lupin

Hey, Lupin, I have a concern and a personal favor to ask:

Remember when you assisted me with photo credits on New York's Village Halloween Parade? I took your advice and removed credits from the captions.

Now I am adding a "photo credit section" to the bottom of the page.

I have two concerns:

  1. I would like to add one of those tiny abbreviated wiki links, like a footnote, to captions, so the photo is linked to a "credit link" at the bottom of the page.
  2. Also, as a favor, I may want to re-add -- on at least two photos -- the name (only) of the photographer. I have searched the image tutorials and find nothing that prohibits this; in fact, on one page, in the section about captions specifically, there was an encouragement to add a credit. (I could add them in small type.)

I have gone to so much trouble to get professional photographers, and photo owners, to agree to the GFDL license, and I have assured them that they will be credited. The parade is a much-photographed event, but quality photos are rare, as it takes place at night, and access to photographers is restricted. I have tried hard not to over-promise what they get in return, but I did say they would be credited. One of them, Wendy Williams, noticed her name had disappeared from her photo. She is a professional (unlike some of the others) and makes part of her living selling photos. Her licensing was, in effect, a donation, and she was extremely gracious to do this.

In case you're interested, I'm working with a very talented photographer from the National Geographic Society to get GFDL licensing on some of his very impressive work on the parade. This stuff could easily qualify for featured photo status (they are just brilliant -- you would love them). I want to find every way possible, within acceptable WP guidelines, to incent these photographers to release work into GFDL. Then, as I approach my long list of other photographers, they will visit the page, see the quality of the photos and the credits -- and hopefully join the group of donors.

I am even drafting a proposal for the parade director -- who grants press and photo access -- to stipulate in the access agreement, that a portion of their work must be released into GFDL as a condition of being given access. Some of these photographers have already released their work to her, to do with as she will -- which is why she has been able to give me so many photos. She is a big supporter of licensing.

Hope I haven't overstated my case, but it is a labor of love. Your thoughts would be very welcome. Thanks.

paul klenk 21:52, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi. To be honest, the reason I removed the credits was that I thought they disturbed the flow of the page - it's really a matter of consistency with other articles and style for me rather than trying to stick to any sharply defined policy. (Plus I'm a fan of WP:IAR). So I'd not have a serious problem with credits. On the other hand, those who remove such notices would, I believe, be well within their rights to do so if they wished to in the future; my understanding one thing you can't impose on text licensed under the GFDL is a requirement to have credits in a particular place, so promising photographers that credits will stay on the page forever may not be wise.
Anyway, please feel free to add credits, preferably unobtrusively (as you seem to be suggesting) if you wish. Also feel free to ignore or contradict me as you wish in the future, and thanks for your courteous question and impeccable attitude! Lupin|talk|popups 23:09, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Uncyclopedia

Look at the Uncyclopedia Version of this article. New York's Village Halloween Parade

[edit] Name of article

Though I see their website is promoting "New York's Village Halloween Parade", as if noone west of the Hudson has heard of Greenwich Village, isn't the parade usually just called the "Greenwich Village Halloween Parade"?--Pharos 04:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

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